So what exactly is the wager you are proposing? 🙂
It could be £10? It's symbolical. Otherwise would not be betting for me.
Not quite, although I agree the trend is in that direction.SY said:Agreed, the days of physical media are behind us.
I can't remember when I last walked into a shop and just bought a CD. I do still occasionally buy BBC Music magazine when the cover CD looks good. I still have LP, and still sometimes buy a second-hand one from a shop near the place I get my car serviced. I still have cassettes and an old JVC deck to play them. I have never downloaded music but I suppose one day I may have to.
It could be £10? It's symbolical. Otherwise would not be betting for me.
No, not the amount. What are you asking us to bet on?
Agreed, the days of physical media are behind us.
The days of CD yes, but vinyl sales increase every year, they are just
a small fraction of total sales though.
http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/...ts/Nielsen-Music-2013-Mid-Year-US-Release.pdf
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No, not the amount. What are you asking us to bet on?
That is something you have never experienced before in the most positive sense and with all its consequences. And you can't get there with a CD, of course.
Then it will be a lot easier understanding what I am trying to say....
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That is something you have never experienced before in the most positive sense and with all its consequences. And you can't get there with a CD, of course.
Then it will be a lot easier understanding what I am trying to say....
Are you not able (or willing?) to answer a simple question with a simple answer?
I find your ramblings completely incoherent.
That is something you have never experienced before in the most positive sense and with all its consequences. And you can't get there with a CD, of course.
Then it will be a lot easier understanding what I am trying to say....
What you are trying to say is that vinyl is better than CD, but you can't find any words with specific and technical merit, because they do not exist. Imagined situations are often very difficult to describe, as are dreams.
That is something you have never experienced before in the most positive sense and with all its consequences. And you can't get there with a CD, of course.
Then it will be a lot easier understanding what I am trying to say....
This is not a useful answer in any way.
Are you not able (or willing?) to answer a simple question with a simple answer?
I find your ramblings completely incoherent.
I was in your condition until I experinced it. The question is simple but not the answer. I don't want to make an effort because it would never be accurate. I am not a reviewer tryng to describe how a system sounds with words that mean nothing to me?
I was in your condition until I experinced it. The question is simple but not the answer. I don't want to make an effort because it would never be accurate. I am not a reviewer tryng to describe how a system sounds with words that mean nothing to me?
Then that is a totally pointless reply! Woo!
What you are trying to say is that vinyl is better than CD, but you can't find any words with specific and technical merit, because they do not exist. Imagined situations are often very difficult to describe, as are dreams.
The only thing I can say is: can you listen to instruments playing music rather the sound of the instruments with your system? That is the difference between a normal hifi system and this one. The typical stories about the sound of a system simply don't tell anything. With a CD you can't reach the same level. This is not necessarily a digital vs analog thing. It is just that a CD is not good enough. It has been tried many times with the best equipment available over the years.
So, you're betting me £10 that I can hear the soul of the music on your system, but not on mine? Or what? 🙄
Yes it is until you try do something by yourself. The first thing you could do is to think about your room as an integral part of you system and avoid its interference with the original room in the recording (artificial or not doesn't matter at this stage because there is one). For example, you should acoustically treat the room to avoid room gain rather than using it to boost or equalize the bass. In general you should avoid as much as possible its interference with the direct radiation. This has nothing to do with an anaecoic room because it would not work. This also means that you have to have a dedicated room. You just can't do it in a normal living room.Then that is a totally pointless reply! Woo!
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So, you're betting me £10 that I can hear the soul of the music on your system, but not on mine? Or what? 🙄
It's just different. If you ask this question I could bet that you would change your mind on your system?
Oooh, this is getting creepy, don't go to look at the puppies.😉So what exactly is the wager you are proposing? 🙂
Are you not able (or willing?) to answer a simple question with a simple answer?
I find your ramblings completely incoherent.
Glad i'm not the only one 😕
@ 45, I like my vinyl records and yes they can sound very good indeed - sometimes.
There are too many variables which make good sound from vinyl hit and miss IMO.
DJ's mainly favour vinyl but then the audience at dance venues are not judging sound quality in hifi terms, they just want to dance and if they enjoy 'coloured' sound, who am I to say they are wrong.
Digital is cleaner, more accurate with less variables which means that good results are more dependable. You can even stick some valves in the output to colour the sound and produce 'warmth' so that it more closely resembles vinyl. This is not more accurate but it can be subjectively nicer for some people to listen to.
The claim that vinyl is better than digital just doesn't stand up i'm afraid. It's like having a passion for vintage cars, nothing wrong in it, just don't try telling people that a 1940's Austin etc is a better mode of transport 😉
Glad i'm not the only one 😕
@ 45, I like my vinyl records and yes they can sound very good indeed - sometimes.
There are too many variables which make good sound from vinyl hit and miss IMO.
DJ's mainly favour vinyl but then the audience at dance venues are not judging sound quality in hifi terms, they just want to dance and if they enjoy 'coloured' sound, who am I to say they are wrong.
Digital is cleaner, more accurate with less variables which means that good results are more dependable. You can even stick some valves in the output to colour the sound and produce 'warmth' so that it more closely resembles vinyl. This is not more accurate but it can be subjectively nicer for some people to listen to.
The claim that vinyl is better than digital just doesn't stand up i'm afraid. It's like having a passion for vintage cars, nothing wrong in it, just don't try telling people that a 1940's Austin etc is a better mode of transport 😉
Vinyl is better than CD. Digital is not necessarily worse but today it is for me.
I am not here for changing your opinion especially if you stick to conventional hifi. Just telling mine, why and in what differs from usual. I can only tell that everyone that has experieced this has left with no doubts at all and never looked back. This is a fact.
The problem is that rather taking the principles and trying to put them into use I should explain in words how it sounds or respond to silly answers....
This is funny! It's the same thing if you ask a F1 one driver to tell you how a F1 car drives in comparison to a normal car and how it feels. After that you know what it is like? What do you learn from that? What do you feel? Or do you know how the real thing is by playing the best video game? The answer is obvious for me.
The subject of this thread started as a "When did you stop beating your wife?" sort of question, and went downhill from there.
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