Hi,
I'm waiting for my VSSA to come to complete my new amplifier. I thought about new speakers too and made a research into projects. I have a pair of XT-25Tg30-04 I would like to use. I have a pretty small room and the maximum width of speakers can be 27cm. Basically, I can't go into big speakers (they are also standing on a cupboard) so I thought about a 2-way or open baffle. I thought open baffle would be a nice idea, but one speaker is standing close to the edge of walls, and I think that would cause much more problems in open-baffle than in closed box. Am I right?
I don't need a deep bass, but a lot of space and good mids. I like rather slow-piano-keyboards sounds and I thought that small midwoofers like PL18 won't do this - I looked at Troels projects, but speakers are pretty small. I look for something about 25-30 liters. Have you ever found a project like this? I can't afford anything more than 70 euro per speaker. Or maybe an open-baffle is possible? I would like to try that one...
I'm waiting for my VSSA to come to complete my new amplifier. I thought about new speakers too and made a research into projects. I have a pair of XT-25Tg30-04 I would like to use. I have a pretty small room and the maximum width of speakers can be 27cm. Basically, I can't go into big speakers (they are also standing on a cupboard) so I thought about a 2-way or open baffle. I thought open baffle would be a nice idea, but one speaker is standing close to the edge of walls, and I think that would cause much more problems in open-baffle than in closed box. Am I right?
I don't need a deep bass, but a lot of space and good mids. I like rather slow-piano-keyboards sounds and I thought that small midwoofers like PL18 won't do this - I looked at Troels projects, but speakers are pretty small. I look for something about 25-30 liters. Have you ever found a project like this? I can't afford anything more than 70 euro per speaker. Or maybe an open-baffle is possible? I would like to try that one...
Vifa PL18WO-
Vifa PL14WJ-
Above a couple of suggestions that'l take much of the guess work out of it for you
Best of luck
Peter
Vifa PL14WJ-
Above a couple of suggestions that'l take much of the guess work out of it for you
Best of luck
Peter
Thanks, but I would like something more than 11.3 liter. That's pretty why I am asking you, because I have already seen those small monitors.
Is there a replacement woofer for the PL14WJ-09-08?
Also, this is very good 2-way; not a lot of bass, but really nice, natural sound.
(click around page for schematic, etc.)
The Madisound Speaker Store
Also, this is very good 2-way; not a lot of bass, but really nice, natural sound.
(click around page for schematic, etc.)
The Madisound Speaker Store
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The PL18 calls for a 34 Liter box, if you can find the driver is another story.
Best of Luck
Peter
Best of Luck
Peter
I like those HDS, have you ever experienced HDS180+XT25tg? I saw them somewhere, and according to opinions it's pretty good. And would propably work with moderate volume.
Or any opinion about PL18WO vs HDS180?
Or any opinion about PL18WO vs HDS180?
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Tweeters on the bookshelf
In my last build I had similar problems where the boxes were to be on a bookshelf and close to wall. After listening to many options I found that having the tweeter in a waveguide as described by Zaph worked the best for avoiding reflection from the wall. This was the only option that had reasonable imaging and clarity. I used a scanspeak dome but the Vifa tweeter is supposed to be quite good for this.
In my last build I had similar problems where the boxes were to be on a bookshelf and close to wall. After listening to many options I found that having the tweeter in a waveguide as described by Zaph worked the best for avoiding reflection from the wall. This was the only option that had reasonable imaging and clarity. I used a scanspeak dome but the Vifa tweeter is supposed to be quite good for this.
Waveguide I think will raise up response in some range? And would need additional tweaking? I will look at that though, seems pretty interesting. Big thanks!
Hi
I built the Nebula project some years ago.
Parts Express DIY Project
However the cabinet is from a swedish project using the same PL18
Hifi Forum HFLS-1 Högtalare Del 2
http://www.hififorum.nu/artiklar/hfls1/hfls-1_2-ritning.pdf
There´s another smaller box from Troels Gravesen page
Ellam-XT
Cheers
I built the Nebula project some years ago.
Parts Express DIY Project
However the cabinet is from a swedish project using the same PL18
Hifi Forum HFLS-1 Högtalare Del 2
http://www.hififorum.nu/artiklar/hfls1/hfls-1_2-ritning.pdf
There´s another smaller box from Troels Gravesen page
Ellam-XT
Cheers
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A wave guide solves so many problems that in my opinion, its silly not to use one. Dave Pellegrene has a 6x4" guide that will allow a 2000 cross or the 8x6 I used to cross lower to a Seas 7" poly cone that has little to no break up and a really clean low end. A simple 3.3 to 4.0 cap will hammer the response back to near normal and it takes the distortion down with it. The seas is a bit out of your budget but you can find used drivers too. Just throwing ideas out to research.
The Madisound Speaker Store
Here is my build. The thread didn't get much of a reaction but at least it illustrates what the wave guide does and how it attaches. I hope its of use to you:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/241286-my-first-wave-guide-speaker-lots-pics.html
The wave guide increases dispersion to be excellent anywhere in the room and cleans up the low end of the XT25. It lifts the response 8-9db in the low and middle tweeter range making it work with a fraction of the power the unit normally needs making it really clean sounding.
Good luck with the build. The XT25 is my favorite tweeter
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