Made up from 2200uF caps - you definitely bought them all!
They come in bags of 250 so there's well under a single bag's worth in this contraption. I haven't shown the ones I bought most recently which exploded - you just can't trust these Taobao sellers to tell you the correct working voltage...😛
BTW, is that a spark plug sticking out the side? How'd that get in there?
I had to go back to the amp itself to work out what that was - its the post of the 4mm binding socket to connect to the speakers.
@SE - I'm not quite as much a bass freak as that 😀 Don't tell JC but the input coupling caps are actually much, much smaller 1206 X7Rs 😉
You'll use 150000uF of rail capacitance but won't spring for PP or C0G coupling caps? 😛
I don't even think RocketScientist would use X7R for coupling 😉.
I don't even think RocketScientist would use X7R for coupling 😉.
@SE - I'm not quite as much a bass freak as that 😀 Don't tell JC but the input coupling caps are actually much, much smaller 1206 X7Rs 😉
😀
se
You'll use 150000uF of rail capacitance but won't spring for PP or C0G coupling caps? 😛
I've already sprung for them - have plenty reels of NP0, just too lazy to solder them all up as I wanted at least 1uF and the biggest NP0s are 100nF 🙂
Probably coz he was much more concerned about distortion (X7R comes with substantial voltage coefficient) than I. After all he'd invested a considerable amount in test gear. To me, if I can't hear it (and so far, I haven't) it don't matter 😀I don't even think RocketScientist would use X7R for coupling 😉.
I think JC's been put off his dinner now, probably going to have nightmares too,

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Abraxalito,
150K of capacitance for 10 watts of output? How long does it run after you turn off the power? Seems rather extreme doesn't it.........😱
150K of capacitance for 10 watts of output? How long does it run after you turn off the power? Seems rather extreme doesn't it.........😱
Yes, I agree it seemed extreme at first. But then I listened, added more caps and listened again. It made a difference to the LF dynamics - previously I could hear more low-level details on headphones, but with the extra caps the speakers have caught up a lot.
The amp'll play maybe 20s or so after I pull out the plug, depends on the music playing and the volume.
<edit> There's a way you can check if your current amp has enough capacitance, so long as you have a reasonably high impedance set of 'phones (or a trafo). Listen with the phones connected via resistive attenuator which presents a much higher impedance than a speaker. Then attach an 8R dummy load and listen again - if you hear the loaded amp gives poorer bass 'slam' you've just discovered your amp is undercapitalized 🙂
The amp'll play maybe 20s or so after I pull out the plug, depends on the music playing and the volume.
<edit> There's a way you can check if your current amp has enough capacitance, so long as you have a reasonably high impedance set of 'phones (or a trafo). Listen with the phones connected via resistive attenuator which presents a much higher impedance than a speaker. Then attach an 8R dummy load and listen again - if you hear the loaded amp gives poorer bass 'slam' you've just discovered your amp is undercapitalized 🙂
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PMA, please, it is 'complicated' for most who look in here. They are not necessarily professional audio designers, like you, me, Nelson, Cordell, etc.
If I had a simpler complete schematic (proven to more or less work) I would have posted it. Even YOU PMA are somewhat confused by the schematic, or you would not have asked me about the asymmetrical loading.
John, that is just so disingenuous. Where do you pull this stuff from?
OK, no need to answer - we are in polite company.
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Abraxalito,
I assume you are using those caps after a smpsu, do you think that is making up for a too small power supply side there?
Today has been a recovery day from the Blue Screen of Death, Microsoft got me again with one of their critical updates. no way to fix the mess they made! I'll talk to you offline later Richard.
I assume you are using those caps after a smpsu, do you think that is making up for a too small power supply side there?
Today has been a recovery day from the Blue Screen of Death, Microsoft got me again with one of their critical updates. no way to fix the mess they made! I'll talk to you offline later Richard.
I have an SMPSU, feeding LM350T linear regs, one for each channel. The caps are at the regulator's output after a low value inductor.
No I don't think its making up for a too small supply - the SMPSU is 100W and the peak current to the speakers just 2A.
No I don't think its making up for a too small supply - the SMPSU is 100W and the peak current to the speakers just 2A.
I think, sometimes, that many here should try to understand a circuit, before they criticize.
It is a FACT that PMA found a problem in the switching logic years ago. After he informed us, we fixed it and I personally thanked him for his input.
Now, he talks about the 'UNEQUAL' LOADING of the -/+ outputs, respectively. Why would I do such a thing? Am I crazy? Please note that one side has a trim pot. Maybe, that will help. Yet PMA asked me about this within the last 24 hours, so I suspect that he too has not thought the circuit through completely.
It is a FACT that PMA found a problem in the switching logic years ago. After he informed us, we fixed it and I personally thanked him for his input.
Now, he talks about the 'UNEQUAL' LOADING of the -/+ outputs, respectively. Why would I do such a thing? Am I crazy? Please note that one side has a trim pot. Maybe, that will help. Yet PMA asked me about this within the last 24 hours, so I suspect that he too has not thought the circuit through completely.
The trim comes after the 330 Ohm build-out resistor, so will affect level a little - maybe a dB or so with an adjustment range of much less than that. Curiouser and curiouser. But it's R65 that really puzzles me.
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks,
Chris
Now, he talks about the 'UNEQUAL' LOADING of the -/+ outputs, respectively.
I have corrected my fault yesterday in this post:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/anal...ch-preamplifier-part-ii-3833.html#post3458396
I have overlooked function of further relays.
(did the vispannetje in a semi-Rococo diner booth of the Corsendonks Hof yet, Jan with capitol J ?)
No, but did one at the Queen of the South in Hasselt years ago 😉
Thanks for the tip, Corsendonkse Hoeve is ok.
jAN
... and you don't like transformers, so dc-coupling is your way to go. What's about your opinion regarding feedback - local and overall? In my experience amplifiers sound best with less / no feedback (zero overall & less / no local fb).I don't like capacitors. I use as few as possible.
I think JC has answered your question about 10 000 times in this thread.
You might like to read http://www.parasound.com/pdfs/JCinterview.pdf
as well.
You might like to read http://www.parasound.com/pdfs/JCinterview.pdf
as well.
And when you're done, you can read a treatment of the same question by someone who bases his opinions on actual engineering and evidence rather than fashion.
http://www.linearaudio.net/images/onlinearticlesPDF/volume1bp.pdf
http://www.linearaudio.net/images/onlinearticlesPDF/volume1bp.pdf
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