Frans, I have a comment for you.
If you remove the servo at the input it still works jut fine as you are correcting both halves separately and the the high and low side at the same time.
Simulation proves this theory.
Correct me if I am wrong but you would use the servo at the input in case any input offset would be induced.
However cartridge won't induce any do offset thus it looks like we wouldn't need that at least.
Let me know if what I am saying makes sense to you or not.
If you remove the servo at the input it still works jut fine as you are correcting both halves separately and the the high and low side at the same time.
Simulation proves this theory.
Correct me if I am wrong but you would use the servo at the input in case any input offset would be induced.
However cartridge won't induce any do offset thus it looks like we wouldn't need that at least.
Let me know if what I am saying makes sense to you or not.
Very interesting reading 😱 😱
Yes, i think the input offset is low, even without the floating servo.
In my building with monolithics I don't even have 1mV across input thus no need for servo there.
Frans, I have a comment for you.
If you remove the servo at the input it still works jut fine as you are correcting both halves separately and the the high and low side at the same time.
Simulation proves this theory.
Correct me if I am wrong but you would use the servo at the input in case any input offset would be induced.
However cartridge won't induce any do offset thus it looks like we wouldn't need that at least.
Let me know if what I am saying makes sense to you or not.
The servo at the input ONLY removes the input differential (if any) and thus makes sure that no DC can flow in the cartridge. It has nothing to do with the output offset(s).
Yes, i think the input offset is low, even without the floating servo.
Still the servo is there to prevent any input offset what so ever 🙂 It can always be build and then we can test what happened when switched of/on and also we can see what the sonic influence is of such a servo.
But why not leave the 200 Ohm 'standard' loading, and add a resistor of 200 Ohm in parallel to the cartridge to get 100 Ohm loading, by providing a place to add this loading resistor it is easy to change to loading by changing just one resistor, and you can go from 200 Ohm to (almost) zero (we must allow for trace and wiring resistance).
That limits the cart loading range..... IMO we woud also like to use 3kohm cart loading sometimes
That limits the cart loading range..... IMO we woud also like to use 3kohm cart loading sometimes
I have to recalculate some things then, you will get the answer tonight 🙂
I don't even have 1mV across input thus no need for servo there.
And what is the output level of the shaking coil in your $5k cartridge ?
And what is the output level of the shaking coil in your $5k cartridge ?
That's it, if you do worry about those things 🙂 then there is no harm in having the servo on board (actually it will help take away your concerns). And there is no 'servo-must-be-stuffed-police', so if you do not like to have the servo then just don't stuff the thing to the board. Only this reason should be good for having the input-differential-compensating-servo on board 🙂
Make the same circuitry with Jfets, then you don't have that worry...
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Make the same circuitry with Jfets, then you don't have that worry...
But as long as the BJT's are there ... (I need to quit defending this anti-differential-input-to-cartridge-currents-and-voltages-servo 🙂).
Frans the servo King...🙂
I fully quote that. Without his contribute I would have never been able to finalize my circuit.
Thanks a lot Frans!
Now commenting on the input differential offset, I can again re-itearate that there is no need for that.
If BJTs are matched or monolithics are used, the input differential offset is extremely low which shouldn't constitute a problem.
I will test the circuit this week and start making some measurements on it.
don't worry
Either FET, Or coupling cap, Or DC-servo is a difficult concept to grasp.
Make the same circuitry with Jfets, then you don't have that worry...
Trrue.
Unfortunately I have tried that and however simulator tells me that you can get the 61dB gain mark, it is pretty far away from it.
Maybe the models I am using are not so realistic, dunno!!
I would have loved to use J74/K170, but I gave up on them for high gain circuits.
Beside, and I don't know if this was realistic either, but noise floor is significantly higher than with BJTs.
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