The interesting thing it's more probable finding a pair of well matched N-channel or P-channel devices, than matching an N to match a P. The transformer models were not coupled inductors, but voltage controlled current source.
This patent [inventor Nelson Pass] taught STASIS {R} technology which was implemented in the power amps of Threshold Corp. I still have a Theshold S/150. At the time I bought it, it came with a complimentary copy of the granted patent. I 'll put Fig 2 in a pdf file in a following thread for the other DIYers to appreciate your point.
Hi there ... 220 ohms .... I'm just doing some changes now, but seems to me that the issue is quite simply that applying the signal from the outputs to the gate for the TOP fet is probably not a good idea - that fet is in a non inverting config so what I'm doing is applying positive feedback instead of negative feedback (for the top half ) almost ensuring that I get oscillations coming in at some point. I venture.
Bottom half is inverting , so issue doesn't crop up there.
Anyway, reconfiging the biasing with a bypass cap for the top half and taking bias ground from zero volts Instead of output to see if it works as I think it should.
Trying to learn at least through my own mistakes ......
to get additional inspirations by circuits with the use of a transformator for driving NPN/N-Channel BjT/MOSFET power devices,
check out the schematics from post #
54+79 (Vox Supreme), 55 (Rogers A75) and 83 (Altec 1590E)
about
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/soli...-models-quasi-complementary-power-output.html
so as post #19 - 32 - 40 (Burns "Orbit Three") about
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/parts/167680-vintage-transistors-2.html
have a look also to the attached files:
check out the schematics from post #
54+79 (Vox Supreme), 55 (Rogers A75) and 83 (Altec 1590E)
about
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/soli...-models-quasi-complementary-power-output.html
so as post #19 - 32 - 40 (Burns "Orbit Three") about
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/parts/167680-vintage-transistors-2.html
have a look also to the attached files:
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Hey Nelson
I just looked at the schematic again.
Are you using shunt regulators on the front end?
Why have you labeled it V1 and V2?
I just looked at the schematic again.
Are you using shunt regulators on the front end?
Why have you labeled it V1 and V2?
Please clarify the conditions of your test. Were the secondaries of the transformer driving the latfets in-phase according to the simplified F6 schematic? There are a total of four key experiments for a multiway comparison of amplifiers' performance.
- N [or P] channel output FETs driven in phase and out of phase
- Complementary N and P channel output FETs driven in phase and out of phase
What am I saying! You and I cannot draw a schematic like the simplified F6 using complementary devices [per the earlier comment of kasey197; please clarify]; be it bjt or MOSFET. But I can do so with enhancement [top] and depletion [bottom] N-channel JFETs.
The signals to the output transistors are out of phase for/in each of the two amplifiers making the bridge. First; is there a specific precedent [schematic] in the open literature for in-phase drive, and secondly how is its performance compare with out of phase drive? That's the principal intrigue in/of F6!
I'm not getting it
both types - depletion and enhancement - are "opening" more with rising voltage on gate (ref. source)
difference is just in biasing voltage - one needs negative , other needs positive (ref.source)
so - if you are going to modulate them in same phase , nothing will happen on output node , considering voltage potential vs. gnd
only difference will reflect difference in their xconductance/gain
as I said several times - I'm digging Pa's schm from post #1 only in case that modulation of upper output Jfet is decreased in deliberate amount , having final effect as something opposite of Mu output stage characteristic (Um , maybe
)anyway - if we are trying to anticipate Pa's logic here , we are on thin ice
it's better to save fingertips and breath and few leftover brain cells we have .... except in case some of us are willing to make something just based on concept ........
unfortunately - I'm not having lately either time or energy or back to try even some things already drawn ; so - this time I'll pass practical anticipation check , probably thinking do I have something enough valuable to sell and to buy cheapest AP station
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To clarify: for the complementary push pull output stage with n and p channel fets: signal applied in phase.
For the test I did here, using same polarity fets (n channel) and biased like is described above, signal is applied out of phase. The sim results shown above also use out of phase.
For the test I did here, using same polarity fets (n channel) and biased like is described above, signal is applied out of phase. The sim results shown above also use out of phase.
