Newnes used to be a little friendly UK publisher of technical books. Being swallowed up by one of the big boys has probably not helped, by making them inflexible.
I still receive a small amount of royalties from Elsevier for a Newnes book I edited. Royalties used to be handled from Oxford, then Amsterdam, now somewhere in America. One slightly annoying thing is that paperwork now comes on US size paper, not A4, so it harder to file neatly in a European folder. Some of the money is paid in dollars, so I lose value in bank charges when I pay it into my sterling account.
MJ may have found what I did, that authors' contracts with their publisher can be rather one-sided.
The proposed academic boycott of Elsevier is because people have realised that almost all the actual work involved in producing an academic journal is done free by academics, yet their university library still has to pay a small fortune to buy the journal. Essentially they are paying for prestige, not paper. I think Elsevier were picked mainly because they are one of the biggest, not because they are any worse than others.
I still receive a small amount of royalties from Elsevier for a Newnes book I edited. Royalties used to be handled from Oxford, then Amsterdam, now somewhere in America. One slightly annoying thing is that paperwork now comes on US size paper, not A4, so it harder to file neatly in a European folder. Some of the money is paid in dollars, so I lose value in bank charges when I pay it into my sterling account.
MJ may have found what I did, that authors' contracts with their publisher can be rather one-sided.
The proposed academic boycott of Elsevier is because people have realised that almost all the actual work involved in producing an academic journal is done free by academics, yet their university library still has to pay a small fortune to buy the journal. Essentially they are paying for prestige, not paper. I think Elsevier were picked mainly because they are one of the biggest, not because they are any worse than others.
The medical research business knows the same thing that most other scientific researchers know. Carefully choosing your samples (patients) has a great influence on the outcome of a study. If you want a certain outcome, choose your "samples" to influence the odds in your favor.
As stated, being published is mandantory in most research fields. It is KEY to obtaining grant money. So is the lecture circuit. In many cases the researchers receive economic bonuses in proportion to the grant money they bring in.
Cancer research has progressed to the point where genetic testing (DNA profiling) can predict whether a person will or will not respond to a certain treatment. Often the treatments are tailored to certain DNA profiles.
Tubelab,
The commercial part of that world is dog eat dog. Check out the team at Duke that not only skewed the results by sample selection, they were caught falsifying data trying to beat the competition to market. Check out Avastin, marketed only to slow the progression of cancer, the tentative FDA approval for breast cancer treatment was pulled. Think $100,000 for a year of treatment that does not work. Avastin is today’s hot seller. Take a look at VB111 now in the pipeline to take Avastin’s place. Buy Genitech stock, I bet they end up being the manufacturing lab. Some of the same team of players are involved. The lab doing the research is perhaps too small to produce commercial quantities.
Now think of the national defense research going on at contract genetic research labs. Our grandchildren will be benefit from that research the way we tube buffs did from the Manhattan Project.
The DNA targeted drugs have a long way to go. It is more like they know that a particular DNA signature cancer strain is sensitive to a particular treatment. Now they place a patient’s cancer cells into a batch of unsuspecting lab mice then treat sub groups with different drugs to find a match. It is like pulling the closest color paint off the shelf and calling it a designer color. It is not like they develop a drug for your particular cancer. That is the goal they are not there yet.
Avastin is a monoclonal antibody that “targets” specific VEGF’s produced by known strains of cancer. They give it to everybody, genetic match or not.
Remember the asbestos research that was put on the shelf by W. R. Grace.
DT
Why should they spend their time printing a $60 tube book when they can spam me about this %#&^:
Lets see......students you can buy this book, or you can feed yourself for your 4 years of school.....easy choice right?
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Lets see......students you can buy this book, or you can feed yourself for your 4 years of school.....easy choice right?
Apparently, things really are moving now- the publisher contacted me for permission to quote some stuff I'd written. Too bad, that means the collector value of my copy will decrease.😀
the publisher contacted me for permission to quote some stuff I'd written.
I thought the book had already been printed......at least in some countries?
Sy snapped up the first 1,000 copies and has been forcing up the black market price before mounting a massive ebay blitz 😉
I thought the book had already been printed......at least in some countries?
Very small quantities apparently and mostly recalled. It's not readily available anywhere most of the time. AFAIK it never really made it to NA except as an E book.
I plan to ask for it again next Christmas..

So will the ones that did make it out become valuable like those stamps with the upside down heads etc?
So will the ones that did make it out become valuable like those stamps with the upside down heads etc?
That's what I'm hoping. "Rare collector's edition, first printing, including errors in figures and captions. Signed by the author. Buy It Now price: $20,000."
Too much power???????????




Yoy remind me of the time I was working on Hysters where we said that some of the people working on them were either too lazy to tighten bolts and nuts and for them when something had to be torqued, turn it till it stripps, remember the amount of turns fit another and turn "just 'arf a tun less Guv" If toooooo tight or loooooose? The P.D.S. man will fix itI thought the book had already been printed......at least in some countries?




Rich?



Now who has nowadays that much money just for a rarety? Unusable because of "mysteaks" and blind proofreaders who has no knowlege of the subject and OH OH OUCH those translators!!!???😡That's what I'm hoping. "Rare collector's edition, first printing, including errors in figures and captions. Signed by the author. Buy It Now price: $20,000."



Well Amazon lists four sellers. Two in the UK who want $63 for it and two in the US who want $156!
From Amazon it says 9 copies left of the third edition and $53! So I don't expect them to carry the 4th until those go.
From Amazon it says 9 copies left of the third edition and $53! So I don't expect them to carry the 4th until those go.
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Well Amazon lists four sellers. Two in the UK who want $63 for it and two in the US who want $156!
From Amazon it says 9 copies left of the third edition and $53! So I don't expect them to carry the 4th until those go.
They were quite happily accepting orders for the fourth edition when they thought they could actually get it, this despite still having inventory from the previous edition. They do offer the fourth edition as a Kindle eBook which I do have, I'm actually waiting for when the corrected fourth edition finally shows up in a print edition, and I expect it to be quite a while.
They were quite happily accepting orders for the fourth edition when they thought they could actually get it, this despite still having inventory from the previous edition. They do offer the fourth edition as a Kindle eBook which I do have, I'm actually waiting for when the corrected fourth edition finally shows up in a print edition, and I expect it to be quite a while.
I just ordered a copy (4th edition) from ebay. It already shipped and I think it's already the corrected edition, since in the last days several sellers listed it.
Wow, $90.90 plus $4 shipping. Is that really how much the book will be going for?
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I bought my copy for 58€ (shipping costs included). 58€=70USD. Not that much... 😉
I bought my copy for 58€ (shipping costs included). 58€=70USD. Not that much... 😉
I bought my copy from "The Book Depository" in England, via Amazon. Cost $63 + $4 shipping. Took 1 week to reach California after I placed the order.
---Gary
Mine just arrived in the post, bought off Amazon last week after trying to order for many months.
Great timing as I am about to jump on a plane to Beirut, so looking forward to getting started on it!
Charlie
Great timing as I am about to jump on a plane to Beirut, so looking forward to getting started on it!
Charlie
Argh. Went to Amazon, tried to order, no 4th edition showing as available. Must have sold out. Argh.
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Edit: Ordered one, but missed that the seller says it won't ship until July 20 (one week from today). Probably back-ordered. Argh, and double-argh. I guess I'm just no good at this internet sales game. Would be so nice to go down to the bookstore, actually see it in reality, and just buy the damnable thing already!
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Edit: Ordered one, but missed that the seller says it won't ship until July 20 (one week from today). Probably back-ordered. Argh, and double-argh. I guess I'm just no good at this internet sales game. Would be so nice to go down to the bookstore, actually see it in reality, and just buy the damnable thing already!
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