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#241
my guess is you havent read any of the taunting emails BF sent people gloating about how he had their money and wasnt giving it back.

I dont think its necessarily a scam yet either, but the alternative isnt that much better. the only reason my posts have escalated is because people keep on coming in, quoting me and saying 'aah dont worry about it, hes been good in the past' what are you worried about and then gone on to ignore or worse minimise the subject of my frustration by saying everyones orders are delayed because of mouser...which has nothing to do with me

what i do not appreciate is being ignored, i couldnt give a toss about the money, i'd spend more on a meal and probably still tip the waitress if it sucked. but what i do care about is having my posts not answered for weeks and then a blanket post made that doesnt address my concerns or give any information at all and say to email him if i had a query to an email that he said would go straight to his mobile/tablet. i sent that email nearly 3 days ago now....

basically i was going to send the paypal dispute last week, but found there was 45 days not 30 so gave him some more time and also thinking maybe it wouldnt help others situation. but i'm at the point of reporting it, so i dont have to come back in here and defend my posts, when i'm the one being wronged here
 
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qusp said:
my guess is you havent read any of the taunting emails BF sent people gloating about how he had their money and wasnt giving it back
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I was NOT defending BF, but Jokener. iMHO the offense of deformation is more easily proved the way much of the inuendo was heading about him. And my point was that I know you and many others were burned.

Regarding BF You are right, i had not seen his skiting, but i can also tell you from experience that you have little options under the law. The DPP will be unlikely to want a bar of BF even if the police do. You have small claims to at your disposal, but even if they find in your individual favours, remember, not such thing as a class action under small claims action, it will cost you though give you some satisfaction. In my opinion Paypal have a lot to answer for here by allowing him to trade after repeated issues. What is his total debt? A fewnhundred, and as he had stock and orders and some fulfilment, you can not claim premeditation, as he would have not paid out a single cent.

So the best you can hope for is:

1) is so scared of the consequences he never even thinks of trying dishonest practices again.
2) these dishonest people (and it is a minority) never stop, until they are stopped, so until he committs something seriously enough to attract a felony charge, it is up to those that are owed to undertake direct action to recover, that does NOT mean unlawful, but direct.
3) you can try the AFP high tech crime centre, they might have a file on him and at least add this to the case material. Afp.gov.au search for 'ahtcc'. Send them your collection of emails and posts and when they pick themsleves up of the floor from laughing so hard that a group of geeks got scammed by a kid, they might pay him a visit. I understand you know where he lives.

I was very recently burned with an online deal so,I know,how pissed this make people feel, but in myhundreds of deals and tens of thousands of $$ i have only had to bad deals for about $200 on total, sometimes you gota just roll with the occasional punches. I still transact and have faith in most parties to do the right thing, but as they say buyer beware.

I truly hope you all get what BF owes you and so does he.
 
#244
Hi Jokener if you read this I want to cancel my order (I havn't paid you anything, so i hope its ok)

I wanted to get started with this project so my order went to jdslabs instead.

To everyone else, i hope you all will get things sorted out. I am sure Jokener has a very good reason for not responding.

best regards
 
#248
roulston, my post from the second paragraph onwards was referring to jokener. sorry but this tis just too much, weeks of nothing then the post to say he would answer emails straight away and no reply top any posts or emails since then; indeed something is really starting to stink
 
#249
Sometimes people have serious problems to deal with. Considering Jokener's past (mostly good?) admin of the previous GB and his message then we have to assume that he's got something pretty serious going on. Perhaps he was involved in a new years eve car crash, got jailed, got bailed, bail retracted if that's possible: that might explain the otherwise difficult to understand lack of coms. Or something else that might hinder coms.

In any case I'll be forced to go through with the paypal dispute eventually; but if he comes through then I'll send payment again.
 
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qusp said:
roulston, my post from the second paragraph onwards was referring to jokener. sorry but this tis just too much, weeks of nothing then the post to say he would answer emails straight away and no reply top any posts or emails since then; indeed something is really starting to stink
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I get it, and you might be right to be concerned only time will tell, and time is part of your problem. I hope your concerns are un founded.

While one can never know precisely the complications that people have in their lives, a simple message of reassurance should not be difficult.

Strangely, i sit on a Government taskforce whose mission is to improve the safety, security and thus confidence in using cyber systems and services to live, learn, transact, conduct business and of course shop. Education, controls and identity assurance but not actually be in control. As you can imagine, this is not as easy as it sounds.

Good luck to all GB members.

Tony.
 
#252
chrisbob12 said:
@lorriman: there's a whole spectrum of urgent and personal which would completely deprioritise fulfillment of a group buy for any reasonably adjusted person. So yeah.
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not without a simple note explaining there was a delay/problem when you have a ready made venue for doing it universally, which is my entire issue with this.
i think you and i have a different idea of what reasonably adjusted means
 
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Nixnada said:
Hi Jokener if you read this I want to cancel my order (I havn't paid you anything, so i hope its ok)

I wanted to get started with this project so my order went to jdslabs instead.

To everyone else, i hope you all will get things sorted out. I am sure Jokener has a very good reason for not responding.

best regards
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The same here....it's to much time to waiting....thanks anyway....and good luck to all...
 
#257
well i finally heard from Jokener, the email is roughly the same as the last one i received several weeks ago with 'any day now' as the only reference to a timeframe, but its a communication at least. i dont know if it was the thumbscrews i used by involving the big O2 man himself, or something else. but for those waiting, a sign of life is good regardless. there is still only a few days left of my 45 days and unless there is proof of shipment before then i'm still left with no alternative, i will not push forward with it straight away, but i have to keep that option open.


Since this is a GroupBuy, I am not a dealer but instead depend on the dealers myself.
The PCBs and components have already arrived and have been sorted, but the cases are still missing.
They should be here any day now and from the it will take only a couple of days to ship everything.
(Not only your order, but all the others as well..)

Sorry for the inconvenience.
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#259
I will wait, I hope he is ok, and as said before it’s a meal out and tip I spent 3 times as much on lap dancers last Friday and have nothing to show for it lol, i don’t think he would do anything wrong on purpose if he had to it’s because of circumstances beyond his control so I will put it down to bad luck on both our parts.. if we don’t trust something them we will never trust anything, I’d rather get burnt once or twice than never eat a hot meal..
 
#260
i must say the lack of availability of these cases is confusing to me

B3-160BL - Box Enclosures - B3160BL - datasheet

and thats just the blue one i'm after.

no, not the money, but the disappearing act and lack of useful information when i understood that any waiting for things to come in stock was to take place before the request for funds.

anyway i think i might ask for a refund, i dont really need it i'd like it, but it sounds like its a pita for him too, so i'd rather not have to keep monitoring this thread and chasing up information.
 
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