Thanks to Apex,
You really save me... 🙂
I hope this one is okay to continue
if not okay yet, I will make new design again...
If okay I will made it soon
Hi Arif,
sudah cek PSU belum, kayaknya kapasitor atau elkonya yg masalah
Thanks
Regards
This pcb is OK,
Regards
Ok, then continue...This pcb is OK,
Regards
some pictures
this is how I made my "hand made PCB"


maybe useful to someone else
made it with steel needle, permanent marker & scratch



scratch with a piece of cutter blade that I tied in a pencil to correct the drawing
I hope that picture enough to explain what I'm doing
@dodoet
if we add another 2 pair it is not AX14 anymore, maybe you can make AX20 instead, don't forget to share
see page 92...
I'm also have a plan to add 1 pair more to AX17 but maybe it not necessary
made same or close to the schematic first then we can modifies later
Regards
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But I don't have 22uF/63v & 22Uf/100vNice 'hand made' pcbs
so if I use 33uF/50v or 47uF/50v for all 22uF's is that okay?
which one do you suggest? 33uF or 47uF?
also for 33pF, only have 22pF & 47pF
so which one again?
Regards
But I don't have 22uF/63v & 22Uf/100v
so if I use 33uF/50v or 47uF/50v for all 22uF's is that okay?
which one do you suggest? 33uF or 47uF?
also for 33pF, only have 22pF & 47pF
so which one again?
Regards
Use 47uF and 47pF,
Regards
My AX17s duel
for testing I will use "bulb tester"
It is same as testing AX14?
And for bias
2 volt on 100nF or 15 mV on 0R33? What is the ideal voltage there?
I will supply 32v from transformer or better with lower voltage first?
I make 2 AX17 with different transistor, hope that not any problem happen 🙂
Regards
ok, almost done...Use 47uF and 47pF,
Regards
for testing I will use "bulb tester"
It is same as testing AX14?
And for bias
2 volt on 100nF or 15 mV on 0R33? What is the ideal voltage there?
I will supply 32v from transformer or better with lower voltage first?
I make 2 AX17 with different transistor, hope that not any problem happen 🙂
Regards
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ok, almost done...
for testing I will use "bulb tester"
It is same as testing AX14?
And for bias
2 volt on 100nF or 15 mV on 0R33? What is the ideal voltage there?
I will supply 32v from transformer or better with lower voltage first?
I make 2 AX17 with different transistor, hope that not any problem happen 🙂
Regards
Nice work, yes testing is same as AX14 and set 15mV on 0R33 for bias (50mA)
Regards
Voltage 2x32vac on transformer will be OK, but you must disconnect transistors from heatsink, use liskun isolator.
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The way we were before we allowed computer nerds to take over the world !
New way for 'hand made' pcbs
Homemade inkjet pcb printer-1 - YouTube
New way for 'hand made' pcbs
Homemade inkjet pcb printer-1 - YouTube
it was a modified inkjet printer
passed 1st test
I'm happy now, thanks to Apex
🙂🙂🙂
These AX17s just passed the test easily
the sound is very clear even I use ugly speaker without enclosure
just for first test...
both of AX17's offset are very low, I try to hear any hum but nothing on that speaker just like it was disconnected from the amp
maybe my cheap digital tester was broken, I also can't measure voltage on 0R33.
my AX17s not use trimpots, because i don't trust trimpot that I bought.
I replace 220 + 1k trimpot with single 330ohm resistor & I got about 2.30volt on C7(100nF)
Is this voltage need to be increase or decrease?
AX17 using TEF right, or just similar look?
so if I increase to 3,2volt(with big heatsink & enought supply) it is possible?
because there was someone told me that he run the TEF amp with 3,2volt bias voltage, even more..
For other DIYer you also need to try this AX-series
I also want to make the AX14 like what Apex recommended 🙂 to compare with this AX17.
As usual with new way hand made PCB(my version)
Thanks again
Regards
Like this picture?Voltage 2x32vac on transformer will be OK, but you must disconnect transistors from heatsink, use liskun isolator.
I'm happy now, thanks to Apex
🙂🙂🙂
These AX17s just passed the test easily
the sound is very clear even I use ugly speaker without enclosure
just for first test...
both of AX17's offset are very low, I try to hear any hum but nothing on that speaker just like it was disconnected from the amp
maybe my cheap digital tester was broken, I also can't measure voltage on 0R33.
my AX17s not use trimpots, because i don't trust trimpot that I bought.
I replace 220 + 1k trimpot with single 330ohm resistor & I got about 2.30volt on C7(100nF)
Is this voltage need to be increase or decrease?
AX17 using TEF right, or just similar look?
so if I increase to 3,2volt(with big heatsink & enought supply) it is possible?
because there was someone told me that he run the TEF amp with 3,2volt bias voltage, even more..
For other DIYer you also need to try this AX-series
I also want to make the AX14 like what Apex recommended 🙂 to compare with this AX17.
As usual with new way hand made PCB(my version)
Thanks again
Regards
Attachments
Set 15mV across 0,33R for 50mA bias. PN voltage is 550mV like zener voltage, and you can't set bias with measure Vbe multiplayer voltage, and for TEF it's will be about 3,2V for any bias current. With 2,4V on Vbe multiplayer amp work in class B.
Regards
Regards
Any sound difference SanKen vs ToshibaLike this picture?
I'm happy now, thanks to Apex
🙂🙂🙂
These AX17s just passed the test easily
the sound is very clear even I use ugly speaker without enclosure
just for first test...
both of AX17's offset are very low, I try to hear any hum but nothing on that speaker just like it was disconnected from the amp
maybe my cheap digital tester was broken, I also can't measure voltage on 0R33.
my AX17s not use trimpots, because i don't trust trimpot that I bought.
I replace 220 + 1k trimpot with single 330ohm resistor & I got about 2.30volt on C7(100nF)
Is this voltage need to be increase or decrease?
EAX17 using TEF right, or just similar look?
so if I increase to 3,2volt(with big heatsink & enought supply) it is possible?
because there was someone told me that he run the TEF amp with 3,2volt bias voltage, even more..
For other DIYer you also need to try this AX-series
I also want to make the AX14 like what Apex recommended 🙂 to compare with this AX17.
As usual with new way hand made PCB(my version)
Thanks again
Regards
Okay, so I need to increase it to 3,2volt & also measure voltage on both 0R33
the more important is the voltage on those resistor. Ok, I get it
If there any possibility to try this amp on 2 ohm load?
Maybe on 2 x 25 vac
I just want to know 🙂
my plan is used this amp on 8ohm speaker
Any sound difference SanKen vs Toshiba
When I test it at first time I don't use good speaker
but I hear a little sound difference SanKen vs Toshiba
Toshiba seems clearer (mid high) than SanKen, but the bias not really fair I guess
since Sanken maybe need a more bias (my guess)
I will set proper bias then
I will make it sure when I finish this project
Perhaps I also can make visual measurement with any PCscope
Regards
the more important is the voltage on those resistor. Ok, I get it
I just go back on this page, TEF for 4 ohm loadTEF for 4 ohm load.
If there any possibility to try this amp on 2 ohm load?
Maybe on 2 x 25 vac
I just want to know 🙂
my plan is used this amp on 8ohm speaker
Any sound difference SanKen vs Toshiba
When I test it at first time I don't use good speaker
but I hear a little sound difference SanKen vs Toshiba
Toshiba seems clearer (mid high) than SanKen, but the bias not really fair I guess
since Sanken maybe need a more bias (my guess)
I will set proper bias then
I will make it sure when I finish this project
Perhaps I also can make visual measurement with any PCscope
Regards
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Okay, so I need to increase it to 3,2volt & also measure voltage on both 0R33
the more important is the voltage on those resistor. Ok, I get it
I just go back on this page, TEF for 4 ohm load
If there any possibility to try this amp on 2 ohm load?
Maybe on 2 x 25 vac
I just want to know 🙂
my plan is used this amp on 8ohm speaker
Regards
For 2 ohm add another pair of outputs, and VI limiter is recomanded, but for home audio it's work without changes.
AX14
I have made PDF file, if someone want print more PCB in one page A4, everything is a mirror reflection for thermo-transfer.
I have made PDF file, if someone want print more PCB in one page A4, everything is a mirror reflection for thermo-transfer.
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I have made PDF file, if someone want print more PCB in one page A4, everything is a mirror reflection for thermo-transfer.
Thank you,
Regards
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