As with most other things in the sector in which you make your money, claims are many, data is nonexistent.
He was agreeing with you. Cherish that.
Cal's point was IF (there's that word again!) cryoing had any effect, handling the wire will negate it. But again, this is ALL off topic and has nothing to do with QP measurement and analysis.
Perceived value Steve, perceived value. One of our members (a Canadian too 🙂 ) is a well healed metalurgist who took the time to go through it with me and at the end he just said that as soon as you straighten the wire out, you have lost any possible good it did in the first place. My perceptions are not strong enough to notice the difference.
I am still waiting for the QP'ers. SY?
I am still waiting for the QP'ers. SY?
I do. And to extrapolate from that to it having any effect on the electrical properties of an audio cable is well, rather silly.
What experiments exactly? You mean the rather meaningless "I cryoed this and it sounded better" experiments?
Yeah, they're right up there with "I put photographs of myself in my freezer and my audio system sounded better."
To my knowledge, no one has demonstrated that cryoing results in any actual audible difference.
Do you know of anyone who has?
Didn't think so.
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Thanks for reminding me- I'll check on it when I'm at the Post Office this afternoon (sending tubes to another fellow forumite).
No no. You're doing it all wrong.
You need to do it until there are NO molecules of copper left. Only the vibrations of the copper molecules that once were.
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Cal (or other mods), would you please be so kind as to split off all the wire and cryo discussion into another thread?
Ah, gotcha.
Yes, and of course there's all the manipulation required in making the wire into a cable and even if you cryo the cable, there's all the coiling and other handling involved after the fact.
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Why SY? Bybee cryos his purifiers! Therefore, it is relevant to this topic.
However, do you know WHY Bybee cryos his purifiers. Take a guess.
However, do you know WHY Bybee cryos his purifiers. Take a guess.
'Bybee Quantum Purifiers are cryogenically treated to enhance performance'
Bybee Technologies website, DIY products dated: 2/2/11
Bybee Technologies website, DIY products dated: 2/2/11
Got it, thanks. In that case, yes, I agree with you.
The wire discussion here is still totally OT and ought to be split out. Same thing with idle speculation- this is a thread about MEASUREMENT and ANALYSIS.
For the record, cyoing speeds up the 'break-in' time, considered here another 'imaginary' condition. That is WHY Jack Bybee does it.
>this quantum purification technology has proven that eliminating sub-audible noise—i.e., noise unmeasurable by typical test-bench instruments--at the quantum mechanical level produces previously unattainable resolution and beauty in home audio and video.<
Split screen video is very easy to arrange and very telling.
Split screen video is very easy to arrange and very telling.
From the measurements and analysis. There IS measurement and analysis for this, right? I mean, John wouldn't deliberately try to continue to turn a thread on measurement and analysis into more promotion for himself and Bybee, right? I'm sure he's posted his data here, we just have to go and find it.
Perhaps because no one's shown that it's anything more than an "imaginary" condition?
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