Steve, if you can, get the book, and read the passage, both before my quotations and after. Do that first, then we can discuss fine points.
By the way, I believe it was demonstrated rather conclusively by jneutron over on Audio Asylum some time back that grain boundaries have no effect on electrical conductivity (i.e. they don't effect the electron mean free path). If my memory is serving me correctly, then I fail to see how the movement of grain boundaries is of any relevance to this discussion.
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For everyone, I am coming from the other side of the problem. For all practical purposes, break-in has been shown to me and all my colleagues, AND we work with it every day. Where the rest of you think that is this crazy, is laughable, and I recommend that you don't try to compete with those of us who know better.
So it is apparent that you are attempting to explain your observations by quoting passages from advanced texts (which most won't understand and will just accept that you do, a brand of con-game that is beneath you) that "seem" to give a plausible mechanism by which your observations may be correct - but on closer examination don't apply at all. This isn't science. This is merely attempting to justify your belief, when you should be questioning it instead.
Why would you guess that would happen in bulk when you have yet to show any evidence of this occurring in bulk materials?
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Steve can you show that it doesn't happen in 'bulk' material?
I don't know how you get to your 98.9% but first get your system to 90% and you will be amazed at what large influences 'small things' can have on SQ.
Lol I have the exact inverse theory. Once you get to an area where it's good enough that little stuff doesn't matter much. 😀 But I think we are both being very general here.
So, again, where's the EVIDENCE of changes in audio cables after break in? If you don't have any, just man up and say, "I got nothin'."
Stop the madness:
Do Coat Hangers Sound As Good Monster Cables? - The Consumerist
This was NOT A MICROSCOPIC thin film, just a physically thin piece of copper sheet.
Eh? What's the difference between a microscopically thin foil and a physically thin foil?
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So it is apparent that you are attempting to explain your observations by quoting passages from advanced texts (which most won't understand and will just accept that you do, a brand of con-game that is beneath you) that "seem" to give a plausible mechanism by which your observations may be correct - but on closer examination don't apply at all.
Bingo!
Steve can you show that it doesn't happen in 'bulk' material?
Irrelevant to what I have said, which is that no one has shown it to happen in bulk material. Can you point to any post in this thread where someone has shown it to happen in bulk material?
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No, but I was making a point. I have info at all levels. It is not always easy to understand, even by me. Did SY help me with the definitions? No. Point made.
There ya go. All the proof anyone should ever need. Wire sound theorists: you just got owned.
Lol I have the exact inverse theory. Once you get to an area where it's good enough that little stuff doesn't matter much. 😀 But I think we are both being very general here.
Key, from what you've said in previous posts, I believe we are trying to reach the same point but from totally different approaches, maybe the reason for our different opinions. On my system it is not a theory, it is a fact but still interesting to note your belief.
[snip] On my system it is not a theory, it is a fact
Very sloppy reasoning Andre. It is neither a theory nor a fact, it is an opinion at most. It becomes a fact when you can show that it is real and repeatable. THEN you can start to think about a theory that could explain it.
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Irrelevant to what I have said, which is that no one has shown it to happen in bulk material. Can you point to any post in this thread where someone has shown it to happen in bulk material?
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Well if no-one shown that it do not happen in 'bulk' material, I would say it is still possible since it is shown to happen in a foil.
Key, from what you've said in previous posts, I believe we are trying to reach the same point but from totally different approaches, maybe the reason for our different opinions. On my system it is not a theory, it is a fact but still interesting to note your belief.
It's just that we aren't being specific enough. Because I have contradicted myself and said basically the same thing which is that with more accuracy it is easier to spot blemishes. With my system it is not a theory at this point either. It's just that I am not so sure as to why that is - I have some ideas though! 😛
One way is Cryoing a part. Yes, it works, the military has used it since WW1
Do you have any books or links to substantiate this claim? I'd love to see some surplus cryo treated WW1 parts show up on ebay. I think the simpler solution is to cryo treat your ears instead of individual components.

Very sloppy reasoning Andre. It is neither a theory nor a fact, it is an opinion at most. It becomes a fact when you can show that it is real and repeatable. THEN you can start to think about a theory that could explain it.
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Thanks for the lesson Jan, but if you check, I've talked about our different opinions in the sentence just before the part you quoted. So far on all the systems I've listened to it was repeatable.
BTW, I already have a theory that can explain it.
...that with more accuracy it is easier to spot blemishes.
Exactly. Part of the reason is that there are less holes where blemishes can hide. 😀
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