Because with certain cables there are a large difference in sound between new and burned-in.
If that is so, I would never have bought the cables I'm using at the moment. An importer gave me a set of new IC's to comment on, they sounded worse than my existing cheapish cables, even wifey complained. I was laughing at these 'special' cables but decided to put them on the pink noise generator for a week to see if it will help but didn't have much hope for them, after burn-in they wasted my cables in every aspect.
A prime example of circular reasoning:
Q: How can you be so certain there is a difference between new and burned-in cables?
A:
Have a great 2010 Andre!
jd
Q: How can you be so certain there is a difference between new and burned-in cables?
A:
Have a great 2010 Andre!
jd
Only if taken out of context. 😉
Same to you and everyone. May this be a year of less problems, more happiness and better sound for all.
It is apparent that whatever is agreed within a group of interested parties re methodology and equipment to be used in any cable test there will be a number of people of proven technical/scientific ability who will be obliged to pick holes in the testing conditions and protocols. If these people were to set up the tests according to their own criteria then the first group would object on similar grounds! Its truly a no-go area.
The best that can be achieved is the emergence of an agreement to differ along with an acceptance that unexplainable differences may exist. But human nature being what it is...........I've just seen a pig fly across the trees outside!
All good things for ye all in 2010!
The best that can be achieved is the emergence of an agreement to differ along with an acceptance that unexplainable differences may exist. But human nature being what it is...........I've just seen a pig fly across the trees outside!
All good things for ye all in 2010!
I guess it depends on how you want to see it. 🙂
This is what you are supposed to read: I'm 100% sure even you will hear the differences because with certain cables there are large differences in sound between new and burned-in.
No one can or will pick holes in a properly done analysis.
I think you and several others posting here should really consider some research into:
scientific method,
the definitions of objective vs. subjective,
as well as ABX / Double Blind Testing.
The methodology is pretty cut and dried actually. It exists universally across all technologies and research areas.
Those who believe in differences that objective testing doesn't show, are the Dowsers, Faith Healers, Psychics, Alchemists, Holocaust Deniers, Flat Earthers, Moon-Landing Hoaxers, Scientologists and so on.
They are also those who somehow feel testing itself dampens their abilities somehow.
I don't know about any of you, but I don't take seriously any of those delusions either.
I've taken the time to link the definitions, I hope you'll take time to read them.
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I don't know what I'm supposed to read, and would really like to decide for myself what is written
You were asked: Why are you so (100% you said) sure?
You answer: Because with certain cables there are large differences in sound between new and burned-in.
Circular reasoning if there ever was one.
jd
Yes, and Oatmeal, we have people like you "trying to prove that much of the daily experience of the rest of humanity is 'delusion', 'hallucination','group hallucination', 'mass hallucination', 'mere coincidence', 'sheer coincidence', or 'sloppy research'. PR p 151
Did I miss anything?
Did I miss anything?
Where can you show that I have made any reference or statement to any of these conditions regarding humanity? Wasn't it you who was whining loudly about slander or something ridiculous like that a few pages back?
The only statement I have made is the one which I will again apply to you, and which you will likely ignore or sidestep once again:
You (and everyone else) have ZERO factual evidence supporting your claim that an audible difference exists between a burned in and a non- burned in length of conductor. None. Zip. Squat.
You have deluded yourself, and you are here rendering opinion which attempts to delude others.
We're simply calling B.S.
I can prove that you cannot hear any difference. The burden is upon you to prove your statements, otherwise, people will continue to mock you as a charlatan and a deceiver.
There's a million bucks in it for you if you can prove your DELUSION.
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There is nothing personal about this, but it is difficult to debate someone without knowing at what level to start. An engineer knows certain things, a tech knows less, an auto mechanic, who might actually discover a 'better' way to make a connecting cable, like Bruce Brisson, might, at first, not know enough science to show evidence to, if a debate is necessary.
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