I really think there is only one "old school" era of car audio, and that is of the first ten years it was being produced. When all of the major companies had just sprouted and decided to move into the car audio business. Its almost like calling Biggie Smalls or Kanye West "old school" when they aren't. I don't really listen to rap/hip hop but I consider earlier rappers like Too Short, Easy E, and groups like NWA "old school" for example. I really get tired of hearing the term "old school" get used for everything. Just like how someone mentioned the amps being sold on ebay that are barely ten years old being sold as "old school", give me a break...🙄
Sorry to inform you, but you can't have a definition of "old school" relative to your age. "Old School" is a defined term refering to a previous generation. We could argue about the previous generation, but we aren't talking about "yours" and "mine" generation. Rather the original car stereo generation, 80s- some early 90s, basically pre "Class-D" amps only need apply. I might even exclude alot of the SMD stuff.
ppi, I haven't seen you around much lately.
I agree. It's a term that should pay homage to the originals who set things in motion for future generations to expand on. If something wasn't involved with that, it isn't old school.
I don't listen to rap, either...
But you gotta give the early guys the credit. They took the risks, threw their efforts on the table for all to judge, and showed everyone something new. They created the market, and would have been the fools if it hadn't worked.
They deserve to have the term "old school" reserved for them.
Artists like The Sugar Hill Gang, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Egyptian Lover, Twilight 22, LL Cool J, Luke Skywalker, etc. If you like rap, thanks the the true old school guys that made it happen.
"The original generation", that's a good definition. It's not relative. Maybe a couple of years into the 90's, and that's about it.
In car audio, again it's the companies/products that set things in motion and absolutely created the market for today's products to be sold in that deserve the credit for being old school.
They broke through the barriers. They are responsible for convincing folks that a thousand bucks isn't outrageous for a car stereo system. They creating the need for professional car stereo installers. Before them, car stereos were just radios or tape decks, and CB radio installations were more profitable.
Exactly. I don't think a Rockford 800.2 is "old school" Previous generation meaning at least 20 years ago 😉
The very reason I include the early 90s:
PG/Orion/EarthQuake/Zapco/ with the first truly stable into 1 ohm stereo.
Rockford/Coustic/Hifonics/LP with the massive power amps.
EarthQuake with the built in adjustable crossovers.
I wonder who was first in these categories?
I agree, and you remembered the original "rappers" I couldn't lol. I had the Egyptian Lover on the Nile and Two Live Crew on tapes back then.
so much for your guys rap history, im jamaican, and never travelled out of jamaica...LOL
what are the differences with an Earthquake PHD2 and a MMATS D100HC i need two amps to power two solobaric kickers, but those are available to me, i dont want much of a difference in my speaker output or the way they play.
by the way i think i remember "ShineHead", does he still rap?
what are the differences with an Earthquake PHD2 and a MMATS D100HC i need two amps to power two solobaric kickers, but those are available to me, i dont want much of a difference in my speaker output or the way they play.
by the way i think i remember "ShineHead", does he still rap?
Yeah I'd say my old school is mostly 80s amps like the original LP TO3 amps, D series SS, stuff like that. However I like the early 90s amps that were still made in USA, they often have some features the early ones didn't even though I hardly ever use amp crossovers and stuff. Some are built better I think, even if it is just the lack of jumper wires all over the board early amps can have. On the other hand I have little interest in running an old LP amp due to price, and little interest running a non-class D on subs due to power usage.
Rap, what is that🙂 I'd rather listen to Madonna to be honest, but some of the early ones were tolerable here and there. I like music so I never got into that much as many of them don't have much of a tune to them.
Rap, what is that🙂 I'd rather listen to Madonna to be honest, but some of the early ones were tolerable here and there. I like music so I never got into that much as many of them don't have much of a tune to them.
The PHD2 (what I run) is 2000watts rms at 2 ohms and the mmats d100hc is most likely around 1400watts rms at 2 or 1 ohm... can't remember for sure.
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yes i check on ampguts but they only have the d200hc and the d300hc model they stated that the d100hc on the MMATS site is the same as dhc1400.05, where can i see the inside of that amp?
I'll give it a shot...
- Orion was first to introduce a high-current model rated for less than 2 ohms. The 1/2 ohm stable 225 & 425 HCCA's were introduced no later than 1987, maybe 1986. PPI and Zed were not too far behind with their own and their private label products.
Unless, of course you count the Delco-Bose amps.
-The monster amp question is tough, because the bar kept being raised...
Probably Fosgate “The Punch” (Pre-Rockford) was the first to build a >300W amp. Forum member tomtomjr has a few, but I’m only familiar with their smaller amps from that time.
Hifonics Zeus came along early '84 at 200Wx2, and constantly grew in power as it evolved. Legend at the time was it was the most powerful amp on the market, and that was likely to be true, as it was a two-channel amp and not a bridged 4-channel.
By 1986, Orion had the 2350GX and Rockford had the Power650. IIRC, Zeus was 275Wx2 then.
By '87, Coustic had the Amp560, Rockford the Power 1000, and HiFonics Colossus was the most powerful when introduced in late '87. At this time, there were already a few other entries into the 300x2 range with PPI's 2300, LP's 5002, Alphasonik's MA2300, Soundstream's MC-500.
From there, it was explosive growth. Tons of regional products had already been successful and grew to compete nationally.
AFAIK, the earliest with built in adjustable crossovers were either the RF Power 300/650 (I don't know about the old Power 360...) or the Hifonics Gemini/Europa. The Hifonics were more flexible and friendly units, but required RCA jumpers.
Hey you guys still awake out there 😀
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Was that sort of cheap? It is not the best condition but I was thinking it was the US made zed or something right?
item 250523111808
Was that sort of cheap? It is not the best condition but I was thinking it was the US made zed or something right?
It's got that zed look to it. But I bought an 8-channel A/D/S and all it does is sit on the shelf. It's so dang big, it's practically unusable.
The early Lanzar Opti-Drives were Zed, I don't know for how long. I'd pay 50 bucks for an old six channel US-made amp any day!
Hello All.
This is Styris and I would like to share my favorite video here. It is "Temperature" original video from Sean Paul. I like that soft dance with high bits according to temperature shown in video.
This is Styris and I would like to share my favorite video here. It is "Temperature" original video from Sean Paul. I like that soft dance with high bits according to temperature shown in video.
Well, which is it young feller?
You want I should freeze, or give him what he wants?
I mean to say if’n I freeze I can’t rightly give him something. And if’n I give him something, I’ma gonna be in motion...
You want I should freeze, or give him what he wants?
I mean to say if’n I freeze I can’t rightly give him something. And if’n I give him something, I’ma gonna be in motion...
I'm the one who will be freezing soon here in the snow belt.🙄
I always think the same thing....oh cool 6 or 8 ch old school....I want, I should bid on that....but simple fact is every time I use less than 75rms/ch I'm not that happy with it (excepting tweeters of course). I end up with 95% of what I need on that day I have to let go of some aggression, and it just isn't quite enough. I know some you can bridge up but most are 30-50rms, ah maybe some day. I just took a V12 mrv alpine out of the car that was 50rms at 14v and it was ok, sounded nice, but marginal when I had the windows down at speed.
I always think the same thing....oh cool 6 or 8 ch old school....I want, I should bid on that....but simple fact is every time I use less than 75rms/ch I'm not that happy with it (excepting tweeters of course). I end up with 95% of what I need on that day I have to let go of some aggression, and it just isn't quite enough. I know some you can bridge up but most are 30-50rms, ah maybe some day. I just took a V12 mrv alpine out of the car that was 50rms at 14v and it was ok, sounded nice, but marginal when I had the windows down at speed.
The A/D/S stuff I have, 6 x 50 and 8 x 60, are quite a bit of power. But on my IDQ 12s and Solo 12s, I like a minimum of 300 watts each.
Probably because I am *******' deaf now.
Probably because I am *******' deaf now.
Sweet here we go; here is a nice old CA240 Harmon Kardon that is 2x120w!!!
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Forget it is really 2x40rms who cares about that. Price on these went up lately for some reason. I watched a couple broken CA260 go for ~65 shipped and couple years ago they were ~85 working. But in between they went way up to 150 or something for nice ones.
270484901859
Forget it is really 2x40rms who cares about that. Price on these went up lately for some reason. I watched a couple broken CA260 go for ~65 shipped and couple years ago they were ~85 working. But in between they went way up to 150 or something for nice ones.