I have no claim to audio fame...there isnt enough money in the audio game for me to remotely care about fame in it.
Do you have fame? No need to bow either, you are on equal footing but with zero substance or validation to your side of the arguement.
I say you should just enjoy your system instead of posting on here over and over about your ears being something they are not 😉
Because you refuse to accept that people can and do hear differences in cables, capacitors, etc, you are a self proclaimed King. Get over yourself. There is no reason to belittle or make this into a personal argument. Your views will never change what I think or others, but you simply refuse to accept that we think differently that you. Why is that and what makes it wrong?
Find some other person to be your lab rat! I listen to music for the enjoyment, not to satisfy your feeble mind.
Thats cool, why post an opinion here then? Like others Im online to educate and learn all at the same time.
You are doing neither.
btw, My feeble mind knew that a DBT didn't involve blind folds so what does that say about you? 😉
Thats cool, why post an opinion here then? Like others Im online to educate and learn all at the same time.
You are doing neither.
btw, My feeble mind knew that a DBT didn't involve blind folds so what does that say about you? 😉
I listen to music, but never in a blind fold. You have your opinions and I have mine. They should be treated as such, not as a point for you to try to tell me that I am delusional. That is your way of dealing with what you can not explain? You can say what ever you want about me Doug. It still does not change the facts that I and many others do hear what you do not understand.
Because you refuse to accept that people can and do hear differences in cables, capacitors, etc, you are a self proclaimed King. Get over yourself. There is no reason to belittle or make this into a personal argument. Your views will never change what I think or others, but you simply refuse to accept that we think differently that you. Why is that and what makes it wrong?
Never proclamed anything just that I have $$$ to put up behind my opinion. Wanna put up money on this one?
Im views will change when evidence supports any other view. As I said before you base your opinion faith, my opinion is based on testing and science. One changes with new evidence, one does not....I welcome any valid proof and I have zero concerns if Im proving wrong.
The problem is that you will never prove me wrong because you can't. Heck you will not even do proper tests.
In a monitored debate this is where we offer you the door 😉
Hi,
See how easy it is to fall into the trap of assumptions?
Hook, line and sinker.
Think about it and to throw in some ancient Greek for good measure: "Gnoti seauton".
Cheers, 😉
Because you choose not to hear some of the things that I and others like me enjoy? What is the logic behind that if I may ask please!
See how easy it is to fall into the trap of assumptions?
Hook, line and sinker.
Think about it and to throw in some ancient Greek for good measure: "Gnoti seauton".
Cheers, 😉
Never proclamed anything just that I have $$$ to put up behind my opinion. Wanna put up money on this one?
Im views will change when evidence supports any other view. As I said before you base your opinion faith, my opinion is based on testing and science. One changes with new evidence, one does not....I welcome any valid proof and I have zero concerns if Im proving wrong.
The problem is that you will never prove me wrong because you can't. Heck you will not even do proper tests.
In a monitored debate this is where we offer you the door 😉
I have nothing to prove to you or your ego. Again I pity you and your life. If you can not understand something, try to tear it apart and prove that you are right. My kind of lifestyle.
Hi,
See how easy it is to fall into the trap of assumptions?
Hook, line and sinker.
Think about it and to throw in some ancient Greek for good measure: "Gnoti seauton".
Cheers, 😉
Frank,
As far as my understanding of ancient Greek, I must confess, it never interested me.
I listen to music, but never in a blind fold. You have your opinions and I have mine. They should be treated as such, not as a point for you to try to tell me that I am delusional. That is your way of dealing with what you can not explain? You can say what ever you want about me Doug. It still does not change the facts that I and many others do hear what you do not understand.
Again, why post?
You have done zero controlled tests, you have never validated any of your experiences. Do you even know how to measure any difference.
If you have done nothing validate your subjective conclusion how do you know you are not being fooled? You are aware that Audio is the biggest placebo hobby? Its up there with Diet Pills.
To 100% believe what you hear without a double check is delusional in the world of science. Its fine if you just want to enjoy on your own but its foolish to post that same mantra on any forum that has science involved.
I have nothing to prove to you or your ego. Again I pity you and your life. If you can not understand something, try to tear it apart and prove that you are right. My kind of lifestyle.
If you are not breaking everything down and getting past the ** what is the point. If you just believe you are a fool, if you never doublecheck your results with alternative methods you are a fool. Im just trying to point out that simply using your ears is extremely flawed for logical reasons.
If you are angered over that logic so be it.
Its funny that you pity me, Im not chasing UFOs 😉
This isn't the "world of science," Doug. Unlike a journal, here anyone can say anything (thank goodness!). Curly has no evidence and has made it abundantly clear that he's not interested in evidence. So what good is ragging about it repeatedly?
Again, why post?
You have done zero controlled tests, you have never validated any of your experiences. Do you even know how to measure any difference.
If you have done nothing validate your subjective conclusion how do you know you are not being fooled? You are aware that Audio is the biggest placebo hobby? Its up there with Diet Pills.
To 100% believe what you hear without a double check is delusional in the world of science. Its fine if you just want to enjoy on your own but its foolish to post that same mantra on any forum that has science involved.
What science can not explain is pushed under a rug.
This isn't the "world of science," Doug. Unlike a journal, here anyone can say anything (thank goodness!). Curly has no evidence and has made it abundantly clear that he's not interested in evidence. So what good is ragging about it repeatedly?
I trust science to a point. I simply refuse to swallow what tastes bad.
What science can not explain is pushed under a rug.
Quite the contrary. "What science can't explain" is a delightful path to tenure. I admit that my career has been in science rather than selling hifi gear, so perhaps I don't have your deep insight into how science works.
Hi,
Think about it and to throw in some ancient Greek for good measure: "Gnoti seauton".
Cheers, 😉
If you mean the know thy self thing, is ''gnothi s' afton''.😉
Well maybe in your mind, but please do not speak for me or others that use and appreciate what the Bybee offers. If you feel that they do not improve your style of listening, that is your call. I feel that lowering the noise floor improves low level details, without adding harshness or disruptive side effects.
I do appreciate the fact that you do acknowledge that they do in fact offer improvements.
Haha I do? I don't know a thing about them except for what I read.
Haha I do? I don't know a thing about them except for what I read.
If you would have read my earlier post, I apologized for misquoting you Key.
I know what sounds good after spending so many years around the best audio gear on the planet. I know that far too many designs that were touted as the best, with great engineering behind them sounded like crap, regardless of how they measured. They did not last long in the business. How many of you have sat down and listened to your equipment vs. the best that is in the market?Quite the contrary. "What science can't explain" is a delightful path to tenure. I admit that my career has been in science rather than selling hifi gear, so perhaps I don't have your deep insight into how science works.
I have seen a great many DIYer's that thought that they had created the masterpiece of engineering, walk away after listening compared to some of the finest gear. Then again I have witnessed some incredible equipment from people that understood how to use science to benefit the music, with careful selection of components based upon how their circuits sounded. It is a combination of art and science. The ones that do it right, know this in my opinion.
Vague as in what? If I hear an improvement in soudstage width, height and/or depth, how is that vague? If I hear that low level details are more "audible" and distinct, is that vague? Subtle differences are magnified when they are removed and you no longer hear them, at least in my experiences. As far as DBT, I never listen to my system with a blindfold on so why would I want to do this to satisfy people that can not or choose not to hear the things that I do and enjoy.
How can you be sure it is an improvement when all of these are CONTROLLED by the mixer. If you extend the ambience, increase the height, expand the depth you have done nothing except mess up the mixers hard work period. Says the hypocrite who does critical listening through a surrund sound decoder 🙂
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If you would have read my earlier post, I apologized for misquoting you Key.
Sorry when I wrote that I had not refreshed the page. You response was the last one on the page
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