You should just go enjoy your system and leave the more scientific stuff to those who actually care to know the truth 😉
as for your ears telling you everything, they do not tell you squat actually. You do not know if your room has nulls, your frequency at 45 degrees has issues or if you have decay problems. Guys like you probably have an untreated room that I think absolutely sucks for true audio performance but hey atleast you have your inaccurate ears to make you happy 😉
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Why is that what you do not understand must be rubbish? Acceptance is what makes life a wonderful place to live, as if you choose not to, I pity your life as no human being will ever conform to your standards 🙂
Why are you even posting? Just go enjoy your music because you have nothing but subjectivity and subjectivity has zero place in a debate that requires atleast some scientific backing.
Huh? If you want to match lifestyles Im more then happy to make you feel inferior but we are not here for that.
Do you even have room treatments? Have you ever measured your system to make sure its actually good and accurate? I doubt it. I suspect you overspend on silly products convincing yourself that its great but in the end you will never know the truth. Its obvious that you do not want to learn anything or remotely find out what measurements might show you.
Staying delusional is your only chance to enjoy what you waste money on 😉
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Curly,you claim machines mean nothing and your perception is everything.I gave you a simple/very cheap example off where machines way out class human perception.I think this is very reverent to the tread.
Did that make you feel good? What you choose not to understand or acknowledge is your business, just as it is mine. My dedicated listening room is 20x35 and it is treated thank you. I have spent the better part of my life involved in high end audio sales. I could care less if you have a mansion in Beverly Hills. You are the one that suffers as you have no concept of acceptance. Just because you say something does not make you right. Whether it is based upon engineering standards or otherwise. If you want to live in a bubble that is your business. Making statements about what someone knows and doesn't know is a sure sign of ignorance to me.
I do not think he is here to learn actually so its pointless to even consider someone like him worthy of a discussion.
Guys like him are a dime a dozen. Their overwhelming belief distorts their views daily its 100% belief with them and like religion its pointless to argue anything against their belief.
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So does SY.
Thing is, I do understand what you're saying but so far there's no tangible evidence of what I think you're hearing is also what I think I'm hearing.
Since there's no measurable evidence of it, it therefore means you're just as delusional as I am which in turn is rather a welcome contradictio in terminis...
No?
Living in Tejas is of course a very good excuse.
Cheers, 😉
So does SY.
Thing is, I do understand what you're saying but so far there's no tangible evidence of what I think you're hearing is also what I think I'm hearing.
Since there's no measurable evidence of it, it therefore means you're just as delusional as I am which in turn is rather a welcome contradictio in terminis...
No?
Living in Tejas is of course a very good excuse.
Cheers, 😉
Because you choose not to hear some of the things that I and others like me enjoy? What is the logic behind that if I may ask please!
Nice room and congrats on it being treated!
Since you lived in the world of high end audio sales it speaks a lot for why you have been brainwashed for years.
You talk about acceptance and you say others live in a bubble. I say just do the PROPER tests and check the actually measurements out just for once.
Hmmmm...it seems you are stuck in the bubble. You refuse to learn something new.
IMO its great to see high end audio sales dying a slow death, they deserve and the writing has been on the wall for years. Science is taking over Audio, the myths have been busted and the internet allows people to be a little more educated.
Less ** from audio sales guys like you. Its a happy day in my world when someone can't ** others and take their money 😀
And your claim to audio fame is that you post nonsense in an audio forum and I am supposed to bow down. Again I pity you my friend. Self importance has got you by the.....
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Learn about PROPERLY CONTROLLED tests and why they are actually important.
My attitude? I just hate audio science ignorance and you been posting attitude long enough its time to muzzle the subjectivity you are spewing endlessly.
Just learn some science then come back because it seems all those years in the high end audio business left you completely ignorant about audio science.
I still do not buy that you were in the business since you actually thought blind folds are used in a DBT 🙄
Actually curly,I've been here for awhile and have learned a lot and have build many speakers.My point is very valid,It's you that seams not willing to learn
Find some other person to be your lab rat! I listen to music for the enjoyment, not to satisfy your feeble mind.
I have no claim to audio fame...there isnt enough money in the audio game for me to remotely care about fame in it.
Do you have fame? No need to bow either, you are on equal footing but with zero substance or validation to your side of the arguement.
I say you should just enjoy your system instead of posting on here over and over about your ears being something they are not 😉
Because I will not allow my ears to be discredited in the name of science. If so than yes, guilty as charged. I learn alot about speakers too. I am not here to be ridiculed for my beliefs just because someone thinks that they know everything about how audio works!
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