meade916 said:
This guy compeated regularly in MECA not Dbdrag, as for the details I don't remember as it was about three years ago that I was helping him out. I did compeate with him at one even that was using the new termlab mic and he was at around 152 at that event. If I can find his info again I will post it.
I have to say I don't understand why you are so upset by what I am saying. You make it sound like what I am talking about is impossible but we both know that they are easily within the relm of reason. I have seen many amzing car setups that you wouldn't think are loud but they were able to hit some pretty amazing numbers. My first system, which I built a long time ago, consisted on two 8" subs. With a $25 amp pushing possibly 200wrms I hit 134.9. Later when I had a better amp I unofficialy hit in the low 140's. At this time I was talking to a guy online who had a very similar setup (my enclosure was scaled down to fit my car, his wasn't) and he was hitting 152 with the old mic. With how far subs and amps have come in the past few years I could probebly recreate that enclosure with better subs and a good amp and be in the 150's on the new mic. I'm not going to due to the fact that I have grown out of SPL and have moved to SQ.
I have compeated in the past but don't do so currently. Mabey you need to take a look at whats going on outside cali. Hell take a look at the crazy 8 comps. There are many guys out there compeating in many associations. Mabey things have changed recently but that doesn't change what I am saying.
meade916 doesn't seem to have worked out the quote system yet now has he.... maybe that says something about the intelligence of the people from the P4S forum... 
anyway I'm still waiting for someong to explain in the 6.5inch video.. how the people are talking, and you can hear them over the music... when the guy in the car is saying its so loud it hurts? lol
Must be the magic of the box... 
hey, like I said, its the 6.5inch video I don't believe... I'm sure the other boxes may ad a few dB to the output
anyway I'm still waiting for someong to explain in the 6.5inch video.. how the people are talking, and you can hear them over the music... when the guy in the car is saying its so loud it hurts? lol
Must be the magic of the box... hey, like I said, its the 6.5inch video I don't believe... I'm sure the other boxes may ad a few dB to the output
Wow this thread has become hostile! Calm down guys....
Here's my whole take of the situation.... The video is definately too subjective. The people they say are experts may not be, and simply saying wow that sounds like a 15" sub doesnt mean anything.
Remember there are alot of crappy 15" subs out there, and you KNOW that those audiobahn 6.5's could outperform a few of them in any enclosure. Of course there are alot of 15" subs out there which would make those audiobahns sound like an alarm clock radio.
I think the real discussion here should be about what makes up the snailshell enclosure. It seems like a custom transmission line if you ask me.
I'd imagine someone has sent an email to the snailshell guys, any responses? Maybe someone ought to tell them we have a big discussion about the snailshell at DIYaudio.com, then maybe they could just come here and tell everyone whatever they might have to say.
Here's my whole take of the situation.... The video is definately too subjective. The people they say are experts may not be, and simply saying wow that sounds like a 15" sub doesnt mean anything.
Remember there are alot of crappy 15" subs out there, and you KNOW that those audiobahn 6.5's could outperform a few of them in any enclosure. Of course there are alot of 15" subs out there which would make those audiobahns sound like an alarm clock radio.
I think the real discussion here should be about what makes up the snailshell enclosure. It seems like a custom transmission line if you ask me.
I'd imagine someone has sent an email to the snailshell guys, any responses? Maybe someone ought to tell them we have a big discussion about the snailshell at DIYaudio.com, then maybe they could just come here and tell everyone whatever they might have to say.
BassAwdyO said:
I've spoken to him in the past, can't rememer what he refered to it as, but it sounded like some bs term he made up on the spot... lol
hey, meade916 came from the P4S forum, and is a moderator... maybe he can pass the word along they have nothing to say... they won't answer ANY questions. sound a little sus?
meade916 said:
http://www.bigboyzaudio.com/board/board_topic/1241819/84875.htm
No shortcuts............................sure! I'd say waiting up to 3 months for a box, only to be told that "perfection takes time" , is one hell of a shortcut!
heres the "sister" thread to this one...
http://www.powered4sound.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1833&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
and look.. I've been offered a WHOLE $100 when I can build a box and have the same amount of customers and supporters of my box as P4S have... WOW!! $100US
http://www.powered4sound.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1833&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
and look.. I've been offered a WHOLE $100 when I can build a box and have the same amount of customers and supporters of my box as P4S have... WOW!! $100US
SkinnyBoy said:meade916 doesn't seem to have worked out the quote system yet now has he.... maybe that says something about the intelligence of the people from the P4S forum...
and your so SMART, i wish i was as smart as you! The "E" in the word quote is missing ....i dont know how ill live with myself now.
SkinnyBoy said:heres the "sister" thread to this one...
http://www.powered4sound.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1833&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
and look.. I've been offered a WHOLE $100 when I can build a box and have the same amount of customers and supporters of my box as P4S have... WOW!! $100US
well if you got the skills do it....i dont know what the market in australia is for boxes though, better find a regular job first.
LOLOL dont you guys still have people running around with spears and paint on their faces? See if those guys want one of your boxes.
DJNUBZ said:
surrrrrrrrrrrrrrre youve "compeated"
I think driving across the country to KC, Missouri for world finals counts as "going outside cali" dont ya think? Theres a difference between an established competitor doing crazy 8's and pulling decent numbers - and you with your $25 amp claiming numbers BIGGER than theirs.
Dont try and school me on other oganizations and whats going on "outside cali" cuz im guessing i know a thing or two or ten more than you about SPL comps.
tiznaki said:
some of the boxes seem to take a lil too long IMO to get to the customers but i think that is a thing of the past.....they are getting them out much faster now. Dont listen to that idiot MATT who is trying to bring them down because of a business arguement that has nothing to do with the net. Theres two sides to every story and those guys for the most part have kept it out of everyones business like any RESPECTABLE person would. How would you like to get in an arguement with your girl and she runs out and tells the world all your problems and makes up a few things on the way? Its wrong of him to be posting that crap.
xstephanx said:
on the New TL i do consistant 154-155 at the dash with music and a consistant 156-157 with test tones or "burping".....i was only being a smart ***
I have never metered my current setup on an old mic but im guessing id be in the mid 160's if i did. That dont matter much though, it would only be for fun - old mics are too unreliable and noone who knows anything uses them or gives a damn about them anymore.It always turns into a hatred battle because everyone who has anything bad to say is a HATER pure and simple....no one who has ever bought one or actually heard one has ever hated on it. Only the "dont knows" who spend to much time on the net reading and making up stuff as they go along.
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