• These commercial threads are for private transactions. diyAudio.com provides these forums for the convenience of our members, but makes no warranty nor assumes any responsibility. We do not vet any members, use of this facility is at your own risk. Customers can post any issues in those threads as long as it is done in a civil manner. All diyAudio rules about conduct apply and will be enforced.

xrk971 Pocket Class A Headamp GB

Wow, you have me beat as I have 250 and I thought that was lot :)

Probably can do it in 25 from same batch to within 1%

Now you need to match IRF610's. You probably know but 3-pin 5mm pitch screw terminal blocks hold TO220 3-legged creatures very well for such testing.

When I built the PCA I measured and tested, ~50 IIRC. I had several very tight matches from that batch. If I'm lucky, they're still labeled in their bins.... ha.

Match the IRF610's for VGS?
 
Founder of XSA-Labs
Joined 2012
Paid Member
eBay or Aliexpress is fine for BF862's. They are not worth faking. Right now, they are EOL so not in stock at major companies anymore.

Good news, I built and verified the new Desktop Class A (DCA) amp. It works well and sounds great. An easy build.

I am using a DC step up to get exactly 20v at the amp after the Cap Mx. Running 130mA bias current:
attachment.php


Here is the backside so you can see the parts behind the heatsink:
attachment.php


Here is measuring the noise at the output with my Fluke 101 on mVrms and I get 0mV. It sounds quiet as well.

Will have to stop now and listen tomorrow. Just two songs so far to confirm PCB is good and free of itcner
 

Attachments

  • Build-Desktop-HPA-front-02.jpg
    Build-Desktop-HPA-front-02.jpg
    419.1 KB · Views: 372
  • Build-Desktop-HPA-back-03.jpg
    Build-Desktop-HPA-back-03.jpg
    424.8 KB · Views: 6,711
  • Build-Desktop-HPA-mV-noise-measure-01.jpg
    Build-Desktop-HPA-mV-noise-measure-01.jpg
    391.9 KB · Views: 197
Last edited:
Founder of XSA-Labs
Joined 2012
Paid Member
Yes, because it is the very last "switch" I have on hand in my supplies. Looks cool but could be problematic is one loses the key. :)

It's a very simple build as you can see - hardly any parts except for the 4 parallel 2w resistors for the resistive load.

We forgot to ask JPS64 to include an LED power on indicator so I added it after the Cap Mx so we can see that the PSU in functional.
 
Yes, because it is the very last "switch" I have on hand in my supplies. Looks cool but could be problematic is one loses the key. :)

It's a very simple build as you can see - hardly any parts except for the 4 parallel 2w resistors for the resistive load.

We forgot to ask JPS64 to include an LED power on indicator so I added it after the Cap Mx so we can see that the PSU in functional.

haha, losing the key would be a pain.

Looks like an easy build, I'm ordering some parts now. Likely use all Takman REY 1/4w, and mills mra5 for the sets of parallel resistors.

I scrounged together enough good resistors last night to make a 10k stepped attenuator, takman, irc rn60's, and a few kiwames. Depending on time though, I may just use an alps for now.
 
Founder of XSA-Labs
Joined 2012
Paid Member
Board just ordered X. I am guessing X, I can remove some of the parts from the PCA and reuse them.

The parts are so cheap, you should leave the other as is, it sounds great doesn't it? Use this one for your special low impedance headphones or maybe use big fat boutique caps? 3 x IRF610's, 2 x BF862's and a handful of resistors and caps. Get the heatsinks from Jameco for $9/10.

To-220 Heat Sink 1 Hole 10 Pcs | eBay

Thanks for the order!

This drawing was key to stuffing it, and it worked the first time no issues. You can check to make sure it works by measuring the bias current across the 4x 270R resistor arrays. Depending on voltage on Vcc, it can be about 8v (18v), 9v (20v), 10v (22v). I am running 20v for 9v/67.5R=133mA. It's warm but not bad at all.

679339d1525781867-xrk971-pocket-class-headamp-gb-0bc0cbc4-0d1b-41b9-9c0c-04ed6985b5a3-jpeg


I am using large 10,000uF 25v rail smoothing caps on C141/142 (because I had them). Big values here ensure great stereo separation. The CRC caps are 2200uF 35v. For output coupling I am using Panasonic FC 3300uF 35v (because I had them) bypassed with Wima 4.7uF MKS. For input caps a simple 10uF 35v Silmic II, no film bypass. I actually had all parts in my supply bins and did not have to buy anything extra to make this amp. All IRF610's are genuine Vishay from same tube and transistor tester showed same Vgs.
 
Last edited:
The parts are so cheap, you should leave the other as is, it sounds great doesn't it? Use this one for your special low impedance headphones or maybe use big fat boutique caps? 3 x IRF610's, 2 x BF862's and a handful of resistors and caps. Get the heatsinks from Jameco for $9/10.

To-220 Heat Sink 1 Hole 10 Pcs | eBay

Thanks for the order!

This drawing was key to stuffing it, and it worked the first time no issues. You can check to make sure it works by measuring the bias current across the 4x 270R resistor arrays. Depending on voltage on Vcc, it can be about 8v (18v), 9v (20v), 10v (22v). I am running 20v for 9v/67.5R=133mA. It's warm but not bad at all.

679339d1525781867-xrk971-pocket-class-headamp-gb-0bc0cbc4-0d1b-41b9-9c0c-04ed6985b5a3-jpeg


I am using large 10,000uF 25v rail smoothing caps on C141/142 (because I had them). Big values here ensure great stereo separation. The CRC caps are 2200uF 35v. For output coupling I am using Panasonic FC 3300uF 35v (because I had them) bypassed with Wima 4.7uF MKS. For input caps a simple 10uF 35v Silmic II, no film bypass. I actually had all parts in my supply bins and did not have to buy anything extra to make this amp. All IRF610's are genuine Vishay from same tube and transistor tester showed same Vgs.
Are those the same heatsinks you used on dados pre/headphone amp.
 
Founder of XSA-Labs
Joined 2012
Paid Member
Running really well and superb sounding. Measuring in at 0.015% THD all H2/H3 and powerful deep bass with 150mA buss at 22v rail. Dissipating about 2w per channel.

I want to mention that this is a really really easy build. An ideal first project or gift for someone new to DIYA.
 

Attachments

  • 607A5F68-C10E-43C5-AA9B-984BBDB911E7.jpg
    607A5F68-C10E-43C5-AA9B-984BBDB911E7.jpg
    746.2 KB · Views: 7,812
Last edited:
Founder of XSA-Labs
Joined 2012
Paid Member
haha thanks for that :D

what step up are you using to power it? Looks beefier than the one for the pocket version.

I shall get started on finding the parts later today. was planning to have the PCB "bare" so may have to find a way to mount some jacks onto the board

Something like this works well - the blue ones seem better than the red ones, in my experience.

DC-DC Converter 10/12/15/20A 150/250/300/400/1200W Step up Step down Buck Boost | eBay

Search eBay or Aliexpress for "DC DC step up 10 amp"
 
Founder of XSA-Labs
Joined 2012
Paid Member
Some Measurements of the DCA

This is with the 56ohm/220hm mod on the resistor network as described above. I found that the harmonic profile can be tuned with the Vcc setting. There is even a point where you can make it H3 dominant. But to do this requires looking at real time FFT and adjusting the Vcc. I have found that the ideal harmonic profile lies right around the design voltage Vcc=20v, and with FFT monitor, it is 20.2v to be precise but this varies for each amp due to variations in the actives.

Source was a Cayin N3 DAP loaded with a high res 1kHz sine wave. The FFT was measured with a Focusrite 2i4 at 48kHz. Load resistor is built in 270ohm at output JST pins.

For 20.2v Vcc, 125mA bias, I get 0.015% THD and this profile:
attachment.php


If you like it more tubey sounding with higher relative H2, set to lower voltage of 19.5v and THD is 0.03%:
attachment.php


If you like really low overall THD of 0.0066% and about the same H2 and H3, set to higher voltage of 21.3v:
attachment.php


So having a variable DC-DC step up is really useful. We can see that the design of the PSU is working well to really keep the 60Hz peak low. The overall amp layout design is excellent and sounds very good. Extremely low noise. The slight rise in the FFT towards 0Hz is due to a large 10uF input coupling cap that is letting infrasonic noise through. Uses of 4.7uF input cap would reduce that - not that it is audible.
 

Attachments

  • DCA-20.2v-125mA-1vpp-270ohms-FFT-good-4.png
    DCA-20.2v-125mA-1vpp-270ohms-FFT-good-4.png
    76.9 KB · Views: 6,557
  • DCA-19.5v-115mA-1vpp-270ohms-FFT-good-2.png
    DCA-19.5v-115mA-1vpp-270ohms-FFT-good-2.png
    79.3 KB · Views: 384
  • DCA-21.37v-135mA-1vpp-270ohms-FFT-good-1.png
    DCA-21.37v-135mA-1vpp-270ohms-FFT-good-1.png
    82.1 KB · Views: 9,156
Last edited: