XMOS DSD 384 kHz / 32bit USB

I really can't imagine how the highly accurate reproduction of a 20kHz anything is going to make much difference to the tweeter, the room, and my ears.

Right. It is not at all about reproduction of ultra-high frequencies (heck, my hearing beyond about 12kHz sucks and I have mild tinnitus). It is about moving the rate up for better sounding digital filters. All my CDs are fine--once run them at 384kHz or DSD256 into my DACs. :smash:
 
I doubt I've ever heard any reproduction above CD quality but I've heard a lot of live music of most kinds. I believe the source and amplification is near enough perfect now that it is of very little concern to me. What does interest me is the final presentation of the speaker in the room, that is where 99%(ha) of the illusion is created to my mind. I really can't imagine how the highly accurate reproduction of a 20kHz anything is going to make much difference to the tweeter, the room, and my ears. Fun to argue about, but that is all 🙄

I repeat that 20khz sampling rate is not so DIRECTLY connected to 20khz audio reproduction. Sampling rate is about how many samples are taken of a waveform in a second and transmitted to a dac to reconstruct it in analog. Frequency of a waveform is how many times main peaks do follow each other in the same waveform. They're connected, but not in a direct and mechanical way, because a complex waveform does not have only main peaks and digital flow reproduction is not just reproducing main peaks. By supplying a more dense digital flow, dacs have more informations about the waveform to reproduce faithfully. That's one of the reasons why even Nyquist requires to double the frequency. But without taking into account dac's filters and hardware limitations (it's a 40s theorem, do you remember?); nor recent theories about >20khz HF effects on human brain, about 3D space reconstruction or good/bad feelings, for example (Science always goes further and yesterday's theories may be disproved by tomorrow's. Does someone disagree? Just try adding a 30/33 khz very simple rc low-pass filter - well above 20 khz limit so no roll off has to be taken into account - between your dac and its output stage and listen very well and honestly for a relevant amount of time, say 1 or 2 hours. Nothing changes? Please do it...)

BUT...

No problem, if you're ok that way, no need to change your mind, maybe you're perfectly right. No one in this thread ever said speakers are not of very high relevance for good audio reproduction.
I can live with you thinking your way. Can't you live with me thinking my way?
 
Further reading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem

P.S.
B equals 22.05kHz in case of hifi.

Boring.
Read this:
https://www.whathifi.com/news/people-can-hear-difference-hi-res-audio-study-finds
Then this (very long, sorry, but it better fulfills scientific requirements):
http://www.aes.org/tmpFiles/elib/20170420/18296.pdf
That is Science: FIRST experiment, then try to determine the laws that explain the results.
Not the opposite.
 
So, you think that is smart doing experiment without any knowledge and preparation..
I think that one must have some ideas before experiment..

I never said that...
Are you trying to say that Queen Mary University of London lacks any knowledge and preparation? 😱
Are you assuming anybody in this thread does not have any knowledge and preparation, or ideas, every time he does not agree with you? 😕
 
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Hard to believe that the intelligent folks here at DIYaudio are still arguing over sampling rate theorem. Assumed you all knew that the problem is not with Nyqust-Shannon, its just that at 44.1kHz Redbook rates the necessary filters are too audible. Hence why all S-D DAC chips oversample and why many using computers choose to do SRC/SDM in software--to deliver filter performance in excess of what can economically be done in silicon inside the DAC.
Not rocket-science, just audio electronics science.

Couple days of talking, but most still missing the point..
At least half of diyers believes that NOS converters are better..