Some messy fun with stain today on my W5-2143’s. I applied “Espresso” on rather thick and let it soak for about 45min then wiped off. I might add a second stain coat on the front baffle tomorrow. Will seal the stain in BLO in a few days. This is a good sounding speaker. I assembled this a while ago and forgot that it has a 1mH and 4.7R BSC to balance the treble and bass.
Before wiping off stain:
Here is look after the wipe:
Before wiping off stain:
Here is look after the wipe:
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oh X. - I like that look - have you considered putting a clear coat over the stain ? - not sure how that would come out - ? I guess BLO will look better and safer
wish I knew how John Lapaire did the Baltic birch finish on my first K10
https://i.imgur.com/cAG0sDb.jpg
wish I knew how John Lapaire did the Baltic birch finish on my first K10
https://i.imgur.com/cAG0sDb.jpg
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I have had espresso brown stain with satin (spray lacquer) clear coat before. Looks very nice. I am going to try boiled linseed oil this time. It usually brings out a deeper color. Sanding the BLO when it’s wet gives a nice satin finish.
The W5-2143 XKi boxes are pretty much finished now with 1 coat of boiled linseed oil on them. I'll let it cure for a few weeks and then add a second coat. The espresso stain turned out nicely.
They fit nicely in the cubby hole for the TV stand so makes more room for the dance studio:
They fit nicely in the cubby hole for the TV stand so makes more room for the dance studio:
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I have a couple of Audax 13LB25AL, courtesy of a very generous JoeHollis.
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/pdf/13LB25AL.pdf
They are exceptionally well built, heavy, and may have the right stuff for an XKi.
I want to experiment with some XPS and foamcore for them.
xrk, could you please run a simulation with these TS parameters?
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/pdf/13LB25AL.pdf
They are exceptionally well built, heavy, and may have the right stuff for an XKi.
I want to experiment with some XPS and foamcore for them.
xrk, could you please run a simulation with these TS parameters?
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(- I lost windows so can't accurately input Mms)
here's those specs otherwise in Akabak form so X doesn't have to work as hard:
Def_Driver “13 LB 25 AL"
SD=87cm2
fs=78Hz
Mms=? (Mmd=3.9g)
Qms=4.67
Qes=0.25
Re=5.55ohm
Le=0.365mH
BL=6.51Tm
Vas=11.34L
here's those specs otherwise in Akabak form so X doesn't have to work as hard:
Def_Driver “13 LB 25 AL"
SD=87cm2
fs=78Hz
Mms=? (Mmd=3.9g)
Qms=4.67
Qes=0.25
Re=5.55ohm
Le=0.365mH
BL=6.51Tm
Vas=11.34L
Hi VonAh,
Sure, give me a few days. My virtual machine within Win 10 has been acting up lately and everything is very slow. I may have to try Akabak 3 soon but it’s a completely different interface. Graphical and not script anymore. Looks like a very nice driver.
Cheers,
X
Sure, give me a few days. My virtual machine within Win 10 has been acting up lately and everything is very slow. I may have to try Akabak 3 soon but it’s a completely different interface. Graphical and not script anymore. Looks like a very nice driver.
Cheers,
X
Thanks, X! Good luck with the VM. I love it when Windows updates things that screw with software we rely on.
Thanks for transcribing, freddi.
Thanks for transcribing, freddi.
I used this BT enabled Class D amp:
BT30A Bluetooth 4.2 Stereo Audio Amplifier 2.1 Channel Receiver Class D Mini Hi-Fi Integrated Digital Amp with Bass and Treble Control 50Watt x 2 + 10 Amazon.com: Bluetooth 4.2 Stereo Audio Amplifier 2.1 Channel Receiver Class D Mini Hi-Fi Integrated Digital Wireless Amp with Bass and Treble Control 50Watt x2+100Watt x1 for Home Passive Speakers Subwoofer BT30A: Electronics
BT30A Bluetooth 4.2 Stereo Audio Amplifier 2.1 Channel Receiver Class D Mini Hi-Fi Integrated Digital Amp with Bass and Treble Control 50Watt x 2 + 10 Amazon.com: Bluetooth 4.2 Stereo Audio Amplifier 2.1 Channel Receiver Class D Mini Hi-Fi Integrated Digital Wireless Amp with Bass and Treble Control 50Watt x2+100Watt x1 for Home Passive Speakers Subwoofer BT30A: Electronics
Thanks, Freddi. The espresso stain is a nice color on Baltic birch ply. I like how easy the BLO is to apply. Wipe on, wait 20 minutes, wipe off. Wait a few days, wipe on another coat, light sanding or rub with fine steel wool while oil is wet, wait 20min and wipe off. You get a deep rich satin finish.
speaking of wipe-on, a simple French - polish finish can look beautiful
Shellac The French Polish Method - YouTube
Shellac The French Polish Method - YouTube
Sorry if I missed it but are there any documented sims of a 15" xki
I'm pondering if a large xki lying on its side (low boy style ) with either a full k slot front aperture or just a flat piece of wood could be a superior alternative to a lklipsxh lascala or belle bass bin (assuming similar dimensions / volume) in terms of
* Higher freq.response .. say 1 KHZ
* Lower bass response (say 40 Hz. )
* More punch
Fwiw ,. I have access to eminence kappa 15c drives and crites cast woofers (equivalent to the original k33 klipsch woofers)
I'm pondering if a large xki lying on its side (low boy style ) with either a full k slot front aperture or just a flat piece of wood could be a superior alternative to a lklipsxh lascala or belle bass bin (assuming similar dimensions / volume) in terms of
* Higher freq.response .. say 1 KHZ
* Lower bass response (say 40 Hz. )
* More punch
Fwiw ,. I have access to eminence kappa 15c drives and crites cast woofers (equivalent to the original k33 klipsch woofers)
Dang .. I asked and received an answer to this question a year ago . Apologies ... https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/ful...itio-karlson-6th-bandpass-85.html#post5715846
No worries. Hope you try it out - and it meets expectations. XKi produces incredibly deep tight bass. I was in another room and my daughter was playing the W5-2143 XKi for dance music. It sounded almost like there was a subwoofer playing.
I just might after I'm done with a remodelling project 🙂
I'm hoping it won't have the "character" that my k15 exhibited somewhere in the 300 -600 range
I'm hoping it won't have the "character" that my k15 exhibited somewhere in the 300 -600 range
-- here's a little offset driver sub from a few years back I would have liked to tried by TB46 (he's still kickin' ! 😀)
An added stub to the front chamber should help with some K-designs. K15 w. 604 is still my reference for Gary Karr's "Spirit of Koussevitzky" album
wonder how much effect the small aperture would have with this cavity? (on a side note, R-J have very little cavity and are
fun)
X - - What might be the differences in the midrange between these two variations ? Can an import of a simple K from a 3D CAD drawing into Akabak 3 shed some light on things?
- bet these would be great for electric bass guitar
TB46 Karlflex with 20 degree tilt baffle
TB46 original Karlflex with 4 degree baffle tilt.
An added stub to the front chamber should help with some K-designs. K15 w. 604 is still my reference for Gary Karr's "Spirit of Koussevitzky" album
wonder how much effect the small aperture would have with this cavity? (on a side note, R-J have very little cavity and are
fun)
X - - What might be the differences in the midrange between these two variations ? Can an import of a simple K from a 3D CAD drawing into Akabak 3 shed some light on things?
- bet these would be great for electric bass guitar
TB46 Karlflex with 20 degree tilt baffle
TB46 original Karlflex with 4 degree baffle tilt.
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I have made aluminum dust caps to cover damaged ones by rubbing heavy weight foil with a pestle in a suitably radiused bowl to avoid wrinkles
It's harder to make small aluminum domes. I have made them for larger speakers from aluminum pie pans. Some pans aren't malleable enough to form, seems like cheaper thinner pans work best. This pic is just from heavy weight foil and the size is about the size of the knob on my pestle. If I get serious about making a couple for my PA-130s I think I might use my wood lathe to turn a depression in a scrap of hardwood just the right size for forming a dome.
