No, seriously guys...
Dayton Audio RS225-4 8" Reference Woofer
We WILL identify this driver among the others, even EQd and level-matched... right ? RIGHT?
Dayton Audio RS225-4 8" Reference Woofer
We WILL identify this driver among the others, even EQd and level-matched... right ? RIGHT?
I think we should start with an easy one....and then move up. Look like the threshold is higher than we though...I'm beginning to smell the odor of a hundred Canadian pesos 🙂
Last edited:
What do you expect???! 🙄
There is a critical point that people still don't get it...
Blind test is very far from easy for people, but (the hypothesis was that) even if they cannot do it, it doesn't mean that they are immune to the difference! 😱
So you have finished 2 matches and the participant can not find a difference between the 2 sets of drivers?
Match 1
ATC SM75-150 v.s. Alpair 7.3eNc
Match 2
Radian PB950 v.s. Scanspeak 10F
What or which logic?
It's just a simple fact that normal blind test is not easy. In real life, we can come to a conclusion about which is good and which is bad after long period of listening. Those who don't believe, will think that this is expectation bias...
In several ABX tests, often I can easily hear differences, but to decide which one is better than the other requires different process, which takes time.
I'm sensitive to distortion, and imo, the objective of listening to music is to have enjoyment, which requires the sound to be fatigue-free. When I make minor change to an amplifier circuit (or speaker crossover) and listen by ears, at least I need one hour to decide if there is increase or decrease in fatigue etc. Long time ago I did this at least one day... How can I do this critical process in a short-time blind test???
Of course, there is one variable that I can hear in a blind test that relate to the musicality, and thus quality of the sound in the long listening. This is usually related with a typical melody. Something like a fast musical passage. Just like when you hear a good guitarist and a bad one, the timing and scale of individual tone (or strum) related to each other is very different, and this defines a good music or a bad one...
But the most important variables require long listening process. It is not "listening" but more "feeling" the music. I think many people do this naturally.
Jay 100% rigth
I can hear difference type of resistor MC load but only in my all diy system, my music, and room not so good on friends system
I need only two notes but long listening for conferm
I can hear difference type of resistor MC load but only in my all diy system, my music, and room not so good on friends system
I need only two notes but long listening for conferm
I heard that before.
The problem is: it was never proven that a long period of listening helps.
In fact, i believe in the exact opposite, because of short-term memory, etc...
We're not even there yet, i thought that was clear.
ABX test for identification so far. No ''better than the other'' yet.
Still got a participant that is able to identify the drivers.
Did well on the matchup 1, and made a perfect 6 out of 6 on the matchup 2.
Did well on the matchup 1, and made a perfect 6 out of 6 on the matchup 2.
...that raise a question:
What if, let's say, only 5% of people can actually identify 2 drivers in a matchup ?
Would you be interested to know the opinion of said drivers from this 5%, even though you might very be in the 95% group ?
What if, let's say, only 5% of people can actually identify 2 drivers in a matchup ?
Would you be interested to know the opinion of said drivers from this 5%, even though you might very be in the 95% group ?
Ladies & Gentlemens, tonight we will have the pleasure to see David against Goliath.
In terms of both pricing and size.
Matchup #3
Radian 950PB with BE + short horn
V.S.
Visaton FR10
In terms of both pricing and size.
Matchup #3
Radian 950PB with BE + short horn
V.S.
Visaton FR10
.... don't throw the first stone on the huge driver !just made a flat EQ on the Radian+short horn: got a nice flat 360-7.2khz.
That thing is a monster. I did a 120.5db reading, in-room @ 1.7m distance.... and since i wanted a flat FR i had to minus-EQ the 1200hz+ like hell... So in fact you pretty much can obtain crazy output in low-end (360-500hz) as well. It was pounding on the floor, and we're not talking bass frequencies here! haha 😱
That thing is a monster. I did a 120.5db reading, in-room @ 1.7m distance.... and since i wanted a flat FR i had to minus-EQ the 1200hz+ like hell... So in fact you pretty much can obtain crazy output in low-end (360-500hz) as well. It was pounding on the floor, and we're not talking bass frequencies here! haha 😱
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
