In many cases that is true. I have a pair of Magnepan speakers over 30 years old that still sounds great.I like audio because the technology improves very slowly. Good equipment from 20-30 years ago is still good today.
Ed
Don't worry, I won't... 🤣The device under test (DUT) can even be a cable, if you insist 🙂
Absolutely - the delight I derive from using a century-old wooden plane in my three-century old house is immense.Old tools have earned the right to be kept, IF they still work faithfully.
I think that's the thing. If you're able and prepared to throw time & money at something you can make a big step up. But once you've done that it's back to incremental gains you don't need anywhere except in your head.Or have an insane friend who does that and get his cast offs. I got a complete campag 9 speed groupset as he was upgrading to 10 speed. Annoyingly I tried one of his bikes with fancy pants multi $k wheels and on a sighted test it really was more responsive. Luckily I can argue with myself I just have to get fitter 🙂
Anyone got audiophile friends who let them have cast offs?
Apparently not in California. You have to keep up with the news fella. It's all changed out there. Men can get pregnant and have periods. It's apparently a thing now.It's because men can't create a life (child).
Some people just think that new is better, whatever it is, I know, got friends like that...I am sticking to what I got, tried some newer stuf, but found it not improving my listening, sold it. It's about the music not the gear, if the gear is good, no need to spent money, that how I think about it.
I like to experiment, without spending a tonne of money, build a speakercabinet, just for fun and things like that, i stopped looking for better sound a long time ago.
I like to experiment, without spending a tonne of money, build a speakercabinet, just for fun and things like that, i stopped looking for better sound a long time ago.
No bluetooth but yes to USB pendrives on DOS and USB card in PCI slot. Suffices for me."How can that old piece of junk be any good? It doesn't have Bluetooth!"
I forgot to mention mono VGA monitor CRT 9 inches. Small enough to accomodate it elsewhere.
You may have a valid point here.It's because men can't create a life (child).
We have to create/build/acquire something new.
Humans are complex, and each one does/contributes the best within his/her abilities.
MEN can´t.Apparently not in California. You have to keep up with the news fella. It's all changed out there. Men can get pregnant and have periods. It's apparently a thing now.
Posing as one is irrelevant; I can pose as an eagle and yet not fly better than a brick.
Please avoid Politics in these threads.
Because Biology (a Science) it´s not.
Without a hobby, you go mad. With the right hobby - you ARE mad !



George
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That is hilarious.It's because men can't create a life (child).
We have to create/build/acquire something new.
Men love challenges we strive to better ourselves by building a better product and the reward is the accomplishment.
I essentially agree with your thesis. Especially, about most new products (subjectively) being 'sideways' moves. My own audiophile journey has been a search to more closely approach a convincingly live sounding in-home reproduction illusion. To provide reproduction which, ultimately, sounds indistinguishable from the live acoustic event, had I been there to hear it. (Leaving for a different discussion, the valid and difficult question of how would I know what the original event sounded like.) As long as the goal of a convincingly live sounding reproduction remains unattained, or proven impossible to attain, the search to find it continues. Which is not to suggest that I don't enjoy my present, obviously reproduced, sounding, playback. Just the same, it does bother me is that we will never move substantially closer to the goal than we already are. At the least, not without some major paradigm change in recording/reproduction approach. In other words, currently established recording/playback technology paths simply may never deliver a convincing auditory illusion. Digital, was thought to be that key paradigm change when it was introduced. Yet, some 40 years after it's introduction in 1983, the search continues. Perhaps, a paradigm like Ambisonics offers the potential for providing a very large step toward attaining the realism goal, but I don't know, having never auditioned it.I keep reading about new products in hifi magazines and wonders if new products really is better then older ones, to me majority of the products seems to go sideways and not forward...
Objectively, a modern audio signal transfer chain already exceeds commonly accepted human auditory thresholds, particularly, when it comes to solid-state amplification. The most flawed link in terms of acoustic-event to ear signal transfer, and perhaps the most key link to a convincing playback illusion are obviously the electro-acoustic transducers, microphones, and especially consumer loudspeakers. Perhaps, once consumer loudspeaker performance also exceeds human detection thresholds, that will prove the key to unlocking a convincing auditory illusion, who knows? In the meanwhile, however, it seems increasingly like the continual objective perfection of the recording/playback signal transfer path between the transducers is fruitless. Capable of providing an undetectable 'sideways' movement in reproduction realism.
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And don't forget to upgrade the USB Cable for a mere £400 (on the same HFN site). When I was a teenager that magazine was serious about real tests!yes, cables, this review on hifi news https://www.hifinews.com/content/atlas-arran-transpose-loudspeaker-cable got me thinking, how can anyone want to buy this, i mean, the one who buys these i am sure already have some hi-end cables, so what can possible be gained by these? the same applies to speakers, a manufacturer upgrades their cabinets with more x-material and new connectors and folks runs to the shop for upgrading, stupid
I was thrilled recently to find a seller on eBay located just a few miles from me who has drivers for my Yamaha NS1000 speakers, and at an affordable price. I don't think I could ever want better (though I've always had a hankering for Quad electrostatics). I have replaced crossover caps and fitted proper cable terminals, and the best 'upgrade' was to make a pair of very solid stands - after my cat had pushed one of the speakers to the floor cracking that precious beryllium (yes, big, strong cat! And too small stands). They date from the mid 70's and they were in a terrible state when I got them really cheap (needing a new bass driver and a tweeter). I was told by the seller that they belonged to Freddie Mercury who did not like the studio black so took a belt sander to them.I bought a Sony Hifi in 1997. By about 2002 the CD and tape unit was dead, more likely because it got "partied" and was full of smoke/tar.
By 2010 the front panel controls (rotary encoders) were all dead or un-usable.
I still have it. I still use it. It's the best amp I've owned. The story behind it was the war between the likes of Awai releasing higher and higher output wattage stats and scoring sales and part of Sony's market. Of course the Awai units were touting PMPO with WIDE margins. If you turned their volume above about 60% the amp/speakers couldn't handle it. The story goes that Sony decided enough was enough and released a range of HiFis which came close to matching Awai's PMPO but with real RMS power underneath and far exceeded Awai/Akai et. al. outputs. The story goes Sony didn't intend to make money on them, just regain the market. I don't know if it worked for them, but the amp is a beast. You can clock it full to it's MAX, hide it down the back of the sofa at a party, click all the "PARTY MODE" bass buttons and let a drunk DJ loose on a set of decks and ... still full expect it to function the next morning and ... not even distort. At several parties it turned out that rather than it being the secondary HiFi, the party ended up migrating to the room with my Sony amp in it because it sounded better than the rented PA speakers in the main room.
It's been overloaded quite a few times, by idiots shouting into microphones usually, it just relay cuts the amp for 1 second and carries on. It was left powered on for 7 years in my last apartment. Not even on standby just power up on AUX in, 60% volume for the TV.
It's still my TV amp. I keep looking for a reason to replace it, but... as an amp I still can't fault it.
Still the same Sony multi-way (fake surround) ported reflex speakers. They are crusty and they had to be bleached a few times, like the unit itself. They still sound fine though. I'm amazed that the rubber reflexs haven't rotted through yet.
Another thought- Ken Kessler is still reviewing for HFNRR, as he was 45 or so years ago, how good is his hearing I wonder? I remember reading a review of his where he was a guest of a speaker designer and had, he recounted, several whiskies before the listening session.
Wow, so, you don’t accidentally have an extra zero (or two) inserted in that price figure? It’s 21 thousand dollars?! For PS Audio brand cables?Doomed...
Do not forget to buy one of paul mcgowans reference speaker cables...only $21000.
https://www.psaudio.com/products/pauls-reference-dragon-zero-speaker-cable/
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