Ah, the appealing for sympathy angle again due to your personal life....
I'd like to see the sales break down of men versus women. Especially affluent men.
Of course outside we’re not encumbered by all the unnatural “local vicinity” type constraints that limit our hearing ability back in the listening room. Even on well-recorded birds songs, it’s just not the same is it? Not as sweet or musical, would you say? 😲
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Addendum, whilst noticing the sound of the birds just outside the window, it doesn’t sound the same as when you are outside, say just outside the window. Not as mellifluous.
Same for some some other things some men like to do. Sport motorcycle riding in the hills overlooking Silicon Valley was one.
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"...can't get a bicycle on the back of either of those, or enough luggage for four people for two weeks away, so they fail at the first hurdle for me."
The pomposity of that statement is factually laughable...the average occupancy of cars is less than One-point-five passengers per vehicle in the UK, a smaller number than even the United States...all one has to do is count the passengers per car while sitting along the side of the your favorite road...one person driving and three or more empty seats. Any two-seater car will do just fine, any more is utterly wasteful.
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The pomposity of that statement is factually laughable...the average occupancy of cars is less than One-point-five passengers per vehicle in the UK, a smaller number than even the United States...all one has to do is count the passengers per car while sitting along the side of the your favorite road...one person driving and three or more empty seats. Any two-seater car will do just fine, any more is utterly wasteful.
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Of course not but I must admit this first blush with audio neo-Platonism was novel.
The proper way to be “green” regarding vehicles is to have two or more of them, where the right size can be picked for any given job. It just costs money to buy and insure them. But it saves fuel.
To produce extra cars costs loads of energy (=fuel) so little overall benefit to be expected, apart from the fact that the average two seated super car is rather fuel hungry 😆
To be really green, take an electric bike or put your money in a super stereo set.
Hans
To be really green, take an electric bike or put your money in a super stereo set.
Hans
Richard, I do agree that having driven hundreds of thousands of miles commuting in the U.K. the normal occupancy is one person per car. Poor and expensive public transport systems (outside of the major cities) and people’s reticence to car share (I was on a scheme for over 6 years and had 1 applicant) tends to infer nothing will change without pressure.
Where I would differ though is in the opinion 2 seats gooood, 4 seats baaaad. (An animal farm reference there) Driving a 16-year-old Prius returns 57+MPG for me, I see them for sale with 300,000 miles on the clock. A local friend with a Smart two seater gets just about 60MPG, (I’m unsure of their life expectancy) they also need a bigger car for family journeys whilst I do not.
If your concern is energy usage maybe a more holistic approach is required.
PS, I can get two bikes and two people inside the Prius!
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Knowing that the clocks and cell phones etc are gone will definitely influence my perception. 😎
Counter-question: if you tell me you removed all clocks and cell phones but you didn't, will I hear a difference? Perception is a b*tch.
Jan
So? It's not for me as I don't drive to work, so the example vehicles given by Mark fail my use case. But you are very good at spurious correlations as we have noted.
You completely missed the point that Mark gave very bad examples to correlate with hifi purchasing. Now by your metric the average amount that a person in Uk spends on hifi trends towards the MSRP of an Amazon echo/Sonos so about £140. Is anything more wasteful?
No, no, no!
You have to put the clock inside room. Just check that (brown) nuggets of wisdom written by geoffcait:
Time is Relative
The Clever Little Clock addresses an esoteric but fundamental problem that occurs when playing an LP, CD, DVD or any other audio or video media. This problem also occurs when watching taped programs on television or listening to recorded programming on the radio in your car or at home. In all of those cases the observer is confronted - subconsciously - by time coordinates that are different from the Present Time coordinates he's been using his entire life to time-stamp sensory information. What are these interfering time coordinates, where do they come from and why are they a problem?
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You can find much more outstanding discoveries from some other universe is here:
https://www.machinadynamica.com/machina42.htm
Yep - hours of fun. Though you'd think the broken links would get fixed, maybe needs some better cables for the website...
Try a good dose of Professor Pat Pending's Snake Oil! Guaranteed to cure all bad feelings... 🙂
I agree, you're right.
When certain enter threads in a certain way they only do so for one reason: to close the thread.
Try closing this thread is a desperate attempt to cover the enormous ignorance demonstrated in certain posts where instead claimed to know everything about hearing and perception.
I've seen this done more than one time in the past.
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