Why the objectivists will never win!

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I'm in a baking hot train right now with about 1sqm of windows open and loud billowing at about 10 Hz from the wind. Which is odd, since the length of the carriage couldn't possibly support a 10Hz standing wave.

In any case, the YT clip could go either way: I might like it, or I might not, after I get a chance to see it.
 
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I've never been one to ram my world view down someone's throat. I'm not into competition, but I thought this had merit as food for thought. John very eloquently made an argument as to why we all hear differently, and to why the pursuit of measurement excellence for it's own sake is not relevant to what we perceive when we listen. It's about understanding the mechanism of perception. If you haven't looked in that direction then maybe it would be useful.
 
Why should I watch it? As TNT said this is not a competition. But you seem to think it gives some sort of insight that I don't actually need.
I make no judgement on what you do or don't need. I have no skin in this game. I just thought it would be a good watch if you are interested in sound reproduction because it looks at an angle that I've not seen often: how exactly do we hear?
 
I've never been one to ram my world view down someone's throat. I'm not into competition, but I thought this had merit as food for thought. John very eloquently made an argument as to why we all hear differently, and to why the pursuit of measurement excellence for it's own sake is not relevant to what we perceive when we listen. It's about understanding the mechanism of perception. If you haven't looked in that direction then maybe it would be useful.
If he would have thought it through, he would have realised that the measurement outcomes influence his perception and thus are highly relevant.

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I make no judgement on what you do or don't need. I have no skin in this game.
Except your initial post is very judging as is the topic title. If you had no skin in the game you would have put a precis in place of your take on it. But you didn't....

It's not incompatible to believe in measurements and accept that different people have their own preferences. Most objectivists are unsuprisingly quite rational.
 
I'm not hating on subjectivits, I have a lot of respect for those who I take the science of measurement forward. The point of this video is to show how measurement will never correlate completely with perception and that is where the interest lies. I guess my thread title ruffled feathers when it was just intended as playful.
 
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