It's been a lot of fun so far though - I've had a lot of laughs...
We should get back to Planet10's horticultural issues...
Naah, let's have some more fun. This thread was doomed from the first post.
https://gearspace.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/378528-machina-dynamica-worst-scam-ever.html
https://www.ripoffreport.com/report...ncement-products-falls-church-maryland-286484
https://www.stereophile.com/content/machina-dynamicas-brand-new-product-1
https://gearspace.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/378528-machina-dynamica-worst-scam-ever.html
https://www.ripoffreport.com/report...ncement-products-falls-church-maryland-286484
https://www.stereophile.com/content/machina-dynamicas-brand-new-product-1
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With a self-contradictory statement like that you have just made yourself the third person in the fray. 🤣
Did I accidentally stumble upon an I Hate Geoff Kait audio forum? Nobody I ever heard of said I was venerated. Reviled, maybe. It’s understandable how this sort of thing happens when monkeys follow the wrong sheep. 🐑 🐑 🐑
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I don't think it's an 'i hate Geoff Kait audio forum' but you make claims in a technical forum where most people are on technical side of things rather than flurry dust mystery side of things.
What did you expect as return?
And nobody stopped you to tell your things, as a mirror nothing stop other to give their experience about your/that claims.
What did you expect as return?
And nobody stopped you to tell your things, as a mirror nothing stop other to give their experience about your/that claims.
Huh? On the technical side of things? No, they’re not, that’s a euphemism for pretending to be technical. they‘re just posing.
What did I expect in return? I’m still thinking about the question.
What did I expect in return? I’m still thinking about the question.
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LoL.
Let me seek my inked in purple, turned off smart phone wrapped in a 3d holographic foil in a demagnetised bag of crystals playing 7.27hz frequency i stored into my freezer.
Hmm said like that i'm not sure who the poser is. 🙂
But yes, now i read the sentence... it surprise me i agree.
Let me seek my inked in purple, turned off smart phone wrapped in a 3d holographic foil in a demagnetised bag of crystals playing 7.27hz frequency i stored into my freezer.
Hmm said like that i'm not sure who the poser is. 🙂
But yes, now i read the sentence... it surprise me i agree.
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No. An actual quote was taken from another forum: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/more-nonsense-on-agon.45924/post-1637031
Its more like you have a reputation that precedes you, whether you are honest or not. Moreover, some of your games aren't helping people to take you seriously. At least you have some control over that.
Now can we please get back on topic?
An actual quote on another forum? You can’t really be as gullible as you appear, can you?
Do you have any quotes from people who revere me,? I think I would like those better.
Do you have any quotes from people who revere me,? I think I would like those better.
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Did you read what's at the link? Part of the post at that link was quoted here in #1297.
Why? Because you were playing your game with quotes. You were trying to create a distraction with it.
Don't know if you can see it but you are only digging a deeper hole for yourself by the way you are bitterly going on. If you would just stop then we could get back to more civil conversation.
Why? Because you were playing your game with quotes. You were trying to create a distraction with it.
Don't know if you can see it but you are only digging a deeper hole for yourself by the way you are bitterly going on. If you would just stop then we could get back to more civil conversation.
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Sadly gk has gone from humorous mode to bitter mode. Happens elsewhere too...
I think he needs to turn up the 7Hz you tube volume and.. relax... 🙂
I think he needs to turn up the 7Hz you tube volume and.. relax... 🙂
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As usual for you, your comment appears to be written in an honest and balanced manner to me, but not everything happens exactly as you describe, or better as you would like it to happen.
Linking to other forums for the sole purpose of denigrating the image of a member of this forum it's just too much, and it's shameful.
There are even those who use the portrait of an Indian philosopher as their Avatar and then dishonor that same portrait behaving uncivilized and spending their time thinking about how to denigrate a member, searching on Google to see if that member has written elsewhere and then linking here to his posts written on other forums over ten years ago?
This dishonors the entire Forum and the image itself that they have unworthily chosen as an Avatar.
It should not be allowed to provoke and mock someone and then by pretending that he does nothing.
And if he responds to those who deliberately provoke and mock, then purists don't like him?
This kind of behavior should be prevented, even if they pay the annual fee, not closing an innocent thread.
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@Mark4w You realize that repeating hate speech is pretty low, don’t you? I certainly hope you drop out of my thread on this topic since you proved unable to follow it.
After having delved into the not-so-much mystery of Schumann frequency generators, I have started pondering something else.
What if a purple felt marker on the edge of a CD could do something to affect CD player sound? What might the physical mechanism be?
One thing technical folks sometimes like to point out is that CD data has error correction mechanisms which would prevent a colored felt pen from affecting the data. However, people often neglect the analog part of digital music reproduction. There has to be an analog voltage reference and an analog time reference. Looking at a Stack Exchange page: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/607809/how-do-dvd-players-know-how-fast-to-spin It says:
CDs and DVDs use a recording technique called Constant Linear Velocity, or CLV. The pit-and-land data on the disc have a channel coding rate for the raw signal. The read back system locks onto that signal, recovers data and clock from it, and uses that in a control loop to maintain servo lock, including focus, tracking and the disc spin rate.
Okay, so there is a motor speed servo which among other things recovers a clock signal. Well then, if the purple felt pin dye is absorptive of the laser light color of the servo sense system, then what effect might that have? My guess would be that there is some scattered light as the laser reaches the beginning and end of the pits that are used to sense speed. The scattered light might add a little noise to the optical detector. If much of the scatter is absorbed by the felt pen dye, then maybe analog time jitter is reduced some.
Reduced enough for a particularly attentive person to hear? Possibly. Can't say its impossible at this point is all.
BTW, the same sort of focus on digital data integrity, and lack of focus on the analog references and other sources of analog noise is an issue that has sometimes come up in discussions about audio dacs. IOW, its nothing new.
What if a purple felt marker on the edge of a CD could do something to affect CD player sound? What might the physical mechanism be?
One thing technical folks sometimes like to point out is that CD data has error correction mechanisms which would prevent a colored felt pen from affecting the data. However, people often neglect the analog part of digital music reproduction. There has to be an analog voltage reference and an analog time reference. Looking at a Stack Exchange page: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/607809/how-do-dvd-players-know-how-fast-to-spin It says:
CDs and DVDs use a recording technique called Constant Linear Velocity, or CLV. The pit-and-land data on the disc have a channel coding rate for the raw signal. The read back system locks onto that signal, recovers data and clock from it, and uses that in a control loop to maintain servo lock, including focus, tracking and the disc spin rate.
Okay, so there is a motor speed servo which among other things recovers a clock signal. Well then, if the purple felt pin dye is absorptive of the laser light color of the servo sense system, then what effect might that have? My guess would be that there is some scattered light as the laser reaches the beginning and end of the pits that are used to sense speed. The scattered light might add a little noise to the optical detector. If much of the scatter is absorbed by the felt pen dye, then maybe analog time jitter is reduced some.
Reduced enough for a particularly attentive person to hear? Possibly. Can't say its impossible at this point is all.
BTW, the same sort of focus on digital data integrity, and lack of focus on the analog references and other sources of analog noise is an issue that has sometimes come up in discussions about audio dacs. IOW, its nothing new.
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Sounds like you have really come to hate me. A lot of your general bitterness reads as hateful and self-pitying. You should stop digging for awhile and chill. Seriously.
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How does the light get out the side of the CD and back to the optics? Also if it made a difference then a standard eye diagram should show it.
If the forum is ASr, it should be a honour and pride to be "discriminated" along there, nah?
I mean, my enemy is your enemy and we are friends
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For the purpose of the thread, I mean
Bill, a standard eye diagram is about data errors, and the method is limited by the resolution of a scope (maybe 1% error or so?). A fancy digital scope might be able to measure timing jitter of the recovered clock though.
Regarding how light might get to the CD edge and back, I will only say that if a felt pen can have an audible effect, it would seem at least some light must find some path. Might have to talk to an expert on CD optical system design and development to get a better idea. That or take a jitter measurement with and without marker dye using a fancy digital scope. Don't know if it would even be practical to measure close-in phase noise very easily. Maybe it could be demodulated.
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