well,
the countries i m mentioning r identical to India,in almost every respect(barring religion).cultural difference,sorry plz,they were all part of India.even till date,there r no cultural differences.
China ,Japan,outta question bec they r different cultures.
moreover,it is wrong to say Chinese diy overshadows India without solid backing.
Japan ,it can b surely.
largest,probably::US or Germany.
there r different forums depending on language,,eg German.
the countries i m mentioning r identical to India,in almost every respect(barring religion).cultural difference,sorry plz,they were all part of India.even till date,there r no cultural differences.
China ,Japan,outta question bec they r different cultures.
moreover,it is wrong to say Chinese diy overshadows India without solid backing.
Japan ,it can b surely.
largest,probably::US or Germany.
there r different forums depending on language,,eg German.
As regards Nepal, it should be pointed out that India has 37 times the population of Nepal. So even if the two countries have a completely equal level of interest in diy Audio, there would be 37 Indians for every Nepalese interested in the hobby.
kelticwizard said:
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In my eyes, United Kingdom is the grandmother of all DIY and hobby electronics.
Ever since the amateur radio area until today
have been a large number of hobby radio/electronics magazines edited in UK.
lineup said:
UK can be the grandmother, but the grandfather might be from one of the colonies.
Alexander Graham Bell anyone?
I like to think the US might have chipped in just a little, what with the invention of the phonograph, (Edison), the invention of the vacuum tube amplifier, (de Forest), the invention of the transistor, (Shockley), and the invention of the electrodynamic loudspeaker, (Rice and Kellogg). 😉
I think diy flourished in the early years when it was the cheap (or only) way of getting things done. Working on that basis, it could be said that diy was more popular in countries where the commercial product was unsatisfactory through unavailability, performance or price.
Some of this has been true for me, and still is to some extent. As a youngster I made things that I couldn't afford to buy. Now I can afford to buy them, but am uninspired by the commercial product.
Some of this has been true for me, and still is to some extent. As a youngster I made things that I couldn't afford to buy. Now I can afford to buy them, but am uninspired by the commercial product.
I would say, however, that when it comes to high end audio and diy Audio, Britain might have a greater per capita interest than anywhere.
For instance, the full range electrostatic loudspeaker has been in continuous production there and nowhere else. Also, the Transmission Line loudspeaker was pretty much an exclusive British product for a long time, (or at least until Martin J King came out with his Mathcad worksheets a few years ago).
Both of these are of interest pretty much only to audiophiles and DIYers, much more than the general population.
For instance, the full range electrostatic loudspeaker has been in continuous production there and nowhere else. Also, the Transmission Line loudspeaker was pretty much an exclusive British product for a long time, (or at least until Martin J King came out with his Mathcad worksheets a few years ago).
Both of these are of interest pretty much only to audiophiles and DIYers, much more than the general population.
kelticwizard said:
That's not diy, which was lineup's point.
You could make a decent argument about which of Wireless World and Audio Engineering is the grandfather and which is the grandmother.
Germany is an engineering power.what it produces is under watchful eyes of US bec of WW2 pacts(u know it better).so saying that UK is numero uno without solid base is wrong.
sorry plz,but India is a big user of these and use indigenous products.
sorry plz,but India is a big user of these and use indigenous products.
kelticwizard said:
sagarverma said:
Does India produce large, full range electrostatics in any appreciable numbers, and if so, how long have they been doing this?
Full range electrostatics are large, obtrusive, and only those willing to go to great lengths to get the finest sound would consider buying them. England has been producing large production runs of these continuously since 1957. I just checked-the UK has 89 dealers who will sell you a British made full range electrostatic.
I think that speaks volumes about the numbers of people in a country who are willing to make a commitment, both in money and living room space, to get the best sound possible. And the large numbers of people willing to pay to get the best sound will be mirrored by large numbers of people willing to build, rebuild, or tweak less expensive or less obtrusive equipment to get the best sound out of that.
We now produce full range electrostatics here in the US, but they have not been in production as long as the UK units. And we have a lot more people.
Just by reading the posts on this board, seeing the popularity of somewhat esoteric audio products, etc, I would guess the interest in both the UK and Scandinavia in quality audio, through DIY or otherwise, is somewhat greater there than elsewhere.. That doesn't mean interest is absent in other places. Only that it might be a little more concentrated in Britain and Scandinavia.
A'af said:I also have a question here about the japaneese san?
but till now....its empty...
Agree.
There is an unproportional low number of japanese around here.
They wouldnt have any problems with english.
Maybe they prefer Japan based DIY boards in their own language?
South Korea have a few around I think, but not many.
Ultimate diy::::
US::::
jet plane ,all for $2000 .
(while some r busy buying cables at that price)
Japanese and for that matter of fact east asians r not well versed in English.
US::::
jet plane ,all for $2000
.(while some r busy buying cables at that price)
Japanese and for that matter of fact east asians r not well versed in English.
A'af said:I also have a question here about the japaneese san?
but till now....its empty...
If you have ever seen the Japanese magazine MJ, it will be apparent that this place is too tame for the Japanese DIYer
rfbrw,
Can you please post some link to the Japanese Magazine, I'd love to have a look.
The "spiral horn" mentioned in a thread in this forum, originates from a Japanese guy if I'm not mistaken.
Sagarverma,
Seven years before I left the shores of India, DIY was alive but mostly in the Solid State genre. The better Speakers available in my hometown Kochi were mostly 'Bolton' and 'Philips'. Maybe nowadays things are better. In my young days you were lucky to get your hands on smuggled stuff.
I haven't heard of an Indian ESL.
DIY as practised in UK and the like is still much more expensive for the Indian market- moreover, Cash rich people tend to buy Branded stuff.
Can you please post some link to the Japanese Magazine, I'd love to have a look.
The "spiral horn" mentioned in a thread in this forum, originates from a Japanese guy if I'm not mistaken.
Sagarverma,
Seven years before I left the shores of India, DIY was alive but mostly in the Solid State genre. The better Speakers available in my hometown Kochi were mostly 'Bolton' and 'Philips'. Maybe nowadays things are better. In my young days you were lucky to get your hands on smuggled stuff.
I haven't heard of an Indian ESL.
DIY as practised in UK and the like is still much more expensive for the Indian market- moreover, Cash rich people tend to buy Branded stuff.
francis varkey said:
As the website would be in Japanese, assuming they have one at all, I would not know where to start. I only get to see MJ by visiting the main UK library.
Any tube audiophile in Dhaka, Bangladesh?
I have been to all these South Asian countries with the only exception of Nepal. I think I will have chance in the near future. Young people in Pak are no longer profficient in English due to their promotion of the hybrid language-Uldu.
I have made a friend, a tube lover in New Dheli, but now lost contact.
I also have made a friend in Bangladesh, but now also lost contact.
The Hi-Fi market and DIY environment in these countries are of great limits. And I think the biggest reason is the living standard of local people. Moreover, the tone of local music, privately speaking, may also contribute to the weak use of tube amplifier.
The local music has rich temp and strength in most cases. The melody is very exciting, but not moving enough. Or, so sorry to speak in this way, it is lack of the power to delineate and inspire the rich emotions of human being at depth, the essence of truely long-lived music.
Anyway, I am still expecting to meet any tube audiophile in Dhaka.
I have been to all these South Asian countries with the only exception of Nepal. I think I will have chance in the near future. Young people in Pak are no longer profficient in English due to their promotion of the hybrid language-Uldu.
I have made a friend, a tube lover in New Dheli, but now lost contact.
I also have made a friend in Bangladesh, but now also lost contact.
The Hi-Fi market and DIY environment in these countries are of great limits. And I think the biggest reason is the living standard of local people. Moreover, the tone of local music, privately speaking, may also contribute to the weak use of tube amplifier.
The local music has rich temp and strength in most cases. The melody is very exciting, but not moving enough. Or, so sorry to speak in this way, it is lack of the power to delineate and inspire the rich emotions of human being at depth, the essence of truely long-lived music.
Anyway, I am still expecting to meet any tube audiophile in Dhaka.
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