I do not claim to have a complete understand of anything.
Me neither.
Just an attempt to blend too many suppositions.
“We will come to the conclusion that we are one energy/mass, which fails our initial requirement for defining ourselves relative to other persons.”
We will? Huh? I'm getting a headache.
Anyway, stop torturing yourself and just get out your credit card and buy the Russell book. It is THE introductory text. Alternatively, any decent library will have a copy too.
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OFF:
I lost a bet once because I said "me neither" is the correct grammar. As it appears , me either is .
That book dedicated to bolshevism made me 'a bit' upset and cautious about that author. May I ask when your ancestors settled in AUS ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economic_Consequences_of_the_Peace
This should be the preferred read IMHO , surely offtopic tho, moderators please excuse.
I lost a bet once because I said "me neither" is the correct grammar. As it appears , me either is .
That book dedicated to bolshevism made me 'a bit' upset and cautious about that author. May I ask when your ancestors settled in AUS ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economic_Consequences_of_the_Peace
This should be the preferred read IMHO , surely offtopic tho, moderators please excuse.
That book dedicated to bolshevism made me 'a bit' upset and cautious about that author.
Why is that?
May I ask when your ancestors settled in AUS ?
I believe you just did. What is your favourite toothpaste flavour?
OFF, must be because the climate here. Guess your ancestors had nothing to do with the climate. /OFF , out.
Let's start with an alternative example.
Let us assume a Scientist exists. His name is Frank and he enjoys Prime Rib occasionally. He is also a member of the Communist party. However, these things are trivial.
What isn't trivial is that Frank is also a child molester and lacks restraint.
Let us also assume NASA (ironic?) approaches Frank with the purpose of granting him 20 billion dollars to produce a rover capable of exploring Mars and taking objective data. Frank says what the hell...I'll do it!
However, before Frank can get started, a neighbor down the street, Sven "Bull" Johannsen, the owner of a paving company, learns from his 7 year-old son that Frank has made inappropriate advances. That same afternoon, as Frank is walking up his driveway after work, "Bull" runs over Frank with a Steam Roller, causing Frank to become one with the Earth.
The question then becomes, does the so-called "Weltgeist" register a shift in the Collective Cosmic Concousness and are there future ramifications?
As the future Mars Rover dies with Frank, is the Mars Rover and Frank now inseparable or do they exist apart?
Best Regards,
TerryO
Let us assume a Scientist exists. His name is Frank and he enjoys Prime Rib occasionally. He is also a member of the Communist party. However, these things are trivial.
What isn't trivial is that Frank is also a child molester and lacks restraint.
Let us also assume NASA (ironic?) approaches Frank with the purpose of granting him 20 billion dollars to produce a rover capable of exploring Mars and taking objective data. Frank says what the hell...I'll do it!
However, before Frank can get started, a neighbor down the street, Sven "Bull" Johannsen, the owner of a paving company, learns from his 7 year-old son that Frank has made inappropriate advances. That same afternoon, as Frank is walking up his driveway after work, "Bull" runs over Frank with a Steam Roller, causing Frank to become one with the Earth.
The question then becomes, does the so-called "Weltgeist" register a shift in the Collective Cosmic Concousness and are there future ramifications?
As the future Mars Rover dies with Frank, is the Mars Rover and Frank now inseparable or do they exist apart?
Best Regards,
TerryO
So what is with the stereotyping our hypothetical NASA scientist as a Bolshevik child abuser? Is this a Pat Robertson forum or something?
[snip]As the future Mars Rover dies with Frank, is the Mars Rover and Frank now inseparable or do they exist apart?
Best Regards,
TerryO
The future Mars rover doesn't die. So far it is an idea, a symbol, a meme in Dennet speak. So, if the Mars Rover meme is successful in it's competition with other planetary rovers, it will eventually get implemented. It goes the way much of everything goes (including Frank): it starts as an idea, gets implemented (or not), and eventually disappears from the space of all possible ideas.
jd
What was the name of the steam roller?
"Proud Mary," or at least, I think it was 🙂
Best Regards,
TerryO
What was the name of the steam roller?
Buffalo Springfield of course.
We do have individual realities but they do not define us, as our realities constantly evolve.
Instead we are defined by our ultimate goals/desires.
I want MYSELF to be happy, and i don't care about YOU. This is what defines ME.
Instead we are defined by our ultimate goals/desires.
I want MYSELF to be happy, and i don't care about YOU. This is what defines ME.
I am glad I am not you. 😀
I just had a similar thought.
The selfish attitude tends to be counter productive 😀
Magura 🙂
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