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I do not claim to have a complete understand of anything.


Me neither.

Just an attempt to blend too many suppositions.

“We will come to the conclusion that we are one energy/mass, which fails our initial requirement for defining ourselves relative to other persons.”

We will? Huh? I'm getting a headache.

Anyway, stop torturing yourself and just get out your credit card and buy the Russell book. It is THE introductory text. Alternatively, any decent library will have a copy too.
 
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Let's start with an alternative example.

Let us assume a Scientist exists. His name is Frank and he enjoys Prime Rib occasionally. He is also a member of the Communist party. However, these things are trivial.

What isn't trivial is that Frank is also a child molester and lacks restraint.

Let us also assume NASA (ironic?) approaches Frank with the purpose of granting him 20 billion dollars to produce a rover capable of exploring Mars and taking objective data. Frank says what the hell...I'll do it!

However, before Frank can get started, a neighbor down the street, Sven "Bull" Johannsen, the owner of a paving company, learns from his 7 year-old son that Frank has made inappropriate advances. That same afternoon, as Frank is walking up his driveway after work, "Bull" runs over Frank with a Steam Roller, causing Frank to become one with the Earth.

The question then becomes, does the so-called "Weltgeist" register a shift in the Collective Cosmic Concousness and are there future ramifications?
As the future Mars Rover dies with Frank, is the Mars Rover and Frank now inseparable or do they exist apart?

Best Regards,
TerryO
 
[snip]As the future Mars Rover dies with Frank, is the Mars Rover and Frank now inseparable or do they exist apart?

Best Regards,
TerryO

The future Mars rover doesn't die. So far it is an idea, a symbol, a meme in Dennet speak. So, if the Mars Rover meme is successful in it's competition with other planetary rovers, it will eventually get implemented. It goes the way much of everything goes (including Frank): it starts as an idea, gets implemented (or not), and eventually disappears from the space of all possible ideas.

jd
 
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