Floyd Toole was the head of Harman's research/testing lab. He is a relevant subject matter expert. I explained the reasons behind my thinking, I didn't push my view as the only valid view. If someone holds an alternate view I'd like to hear their reasoning and support. For example, I don't think DSP colors sound or that humans can hear DSP coloration. However, I am open to being proven wrong by a SME and/or a research paper.
Floyd Toole's opinion. That's why I was careful to supply the reference and page number.
Look, I suppose some people think their stereo sounds better when they paint themselves blue and dance naked around the room. I'm not going to rob them of their experience.
Whoa there folks, hold your horses! Be gentle with each other. This is just audio. Besides, talk about an off-topic argument. I only want to build efficient speakers for under $600 that will fit in and work well with my room and be compatible with my current “architecture.”
Anyway, I’m liking the frugel-horn. While I do like the Bradleypnw’s idea of buying something used and re-working the enclosure, it would take more knowledge than I currently have to design something good sounding, and I need to spend my time building so I can get to enjoying faster.
Thanks again for all the suggestions and advice, particularly the idea of quickly building an OB pair so I could hear it. Still liking the idea of an OB set up but I don’t have any leads on proven designs and I also have a kid.
I’ll get on with lurking the FH page so I can build with confidence.
Anyway, I’m liking the frugel-horn. While I do like the Bradleypnw’s idea of buying something used and re-working the enclosure, it would take more knowledge than I currently have to design something good sounding, and I need to spend my time building so I can get to enjoying faster.
Thanks again for all the suggestions and advice, particularly the idea of quickly building an OB pair so I could hear it. Still liking the idea of an OB set up but I don’t have any leads on proven designs and I also have a kid.
I’ll get on with lurking the FH page so I can build with confidence.
Maybe a pair of twin driver micro towers.
http://frugal-phile.com/boxlib/P10free/microTower-maps-020615.pdf
The version with one forward and one upward facing driver per channel. I just happen to know where to get a set of perfect drivers for this application for half your budget.
http://frugal-phile.com/boxlib/P10free/microTower-maps-020615.pdf
The version with one forward and one upward facing driver per channel. I just happen to know where to get a set of perfect drivers for this application for half your budget.
So, ok. I’m A bit torn. Micro towers would fit a bit better but I’m super intrigued by the horns and I also think I probably should get some more sensitive drivers, like the FE126eN. I don’t always need the dB, but there are times when it would be nice. I suppose alternatively I could build a preamp with a gain stage (I do like soldering...).
What would be the sonic difference between double driver Micro Towers with el70’s and Frugal Horns with FE126eN‘s?
What would be the sonic difference between double driver Micro Towers with el70’s and Frugal Horns with FE126eN‘s?
Most FHs work near a back wall. But teh FE126 in FH3 just squeaks into the OK. Not near as much bass as things like Alpair7x/Pluvia7. That can give an effective shrinking of the perceived loudness based on just sensitivity.
FE126 is often used with as lottle as a couple watts.
For the mentioned FH3 drivers, i generally recommend minimum 10w. Something good to 4Ω for the EL70 (and 20w into 4).
dave
FE126 is often used with as lottle as a couple watts.
For the mentioned FH3 drivers, i generally recommend minimum 10w. Something good to 4Ω for the EL70 (and 20w into 4).
dave
A full range driver in a small box crossed over to a subwoofer will sound better and it can be positioned to deal with room modes to a degree.
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