As much as I love Tannoys (and I must do as I own two pairs of 12" DualConcentrics) I'd very much prefer the larger, paper-coned drivers.
From the entire Tannoy back catalogue my choice would be either FSMs, 215DMTs, the legendary Dreadnoughts (all with 15" DualConcentrics + one or two 15" woofers) or may be the Buckingham Monitor (10"DC + two 12" woofers) but I couldn't list them as I haven't heard them personally.
Still regret not having bought a few S900 (12"DC + two 12" woofers) when I had the chance.
Tannoy btw is the only manufacturer I am aware of who used the same drivers for domestic, studio and PA speakers at times.
I am told Lockwood Tannoys were the best . They don't look much . Klipsche Forte 2 does a good Tannoy impression . Even in image location . "Concer " jobs were GRF monitors ? Leslie Cowan was the other secret Tannoy man ( improved GRF for Tannoy ) .
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From what I've been told the Lockwood Minors (12"DC) were pretty good but the Lockwood Majors had a tendency to let the woofer part bottom out.
They've been designed prior to Thiele & Small and the cabs main compartment is ported into a secondary band pass section. It appears that this configuration unloads the woofer, at times dangerously so.
Thiele & Small . Not sure about that . I reckon it has stifled some aspects of voicing a speaker .
Plywood is big again I am told . Latvian especailly . Spendor BC 1's . Wonder how they would do if simulated ? Early ones use animal glue and sounded better . I rebuilt two pairs with Spendor calibrated drivers . The old pair was better ( faster ) . That driver sounds great in open air . As do Tannoy I am told .
What became of Leak ?
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Plywood is big again I am told . Latvian especailly . Spendor BC 1's . Wonder how they would do if simulated ? Early ones use animal glue and sounded better . I rebuilt two pairs with Spendor calibrated drivers . The old pair was better ( faster ) . That driver sounds great in open air . As do Tannoy I am told .
What became of Leak ?
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It looks like you are commenting on a speaker you have never actually heard.
Why?
...Then you owe it to yourself to hear some LSR6332s with the C500G midrange (one of the best midrange drivers in the world) and elliptical waveguide tweeter... up there with the Genelec 8260A as one of the finer dome tweeter studio monitors in the world. ...I hope you're not mixing up 1970s JBLs with modern Harman Kardon "JBL-branded" speakers.
Um, there's nothing inherently rubbish about a speaker that can do PA application. Yes, some PA speakers lack baffle step compensation and sound really shouty, and others have bad horn coloration, or very high crossover points between tweeter and midrange. But those are what they are - bad speakers. There's good PA speakers out there too.
I heard several evolutions of Tannoy 15" Reds. These were ultimately triamped with 300b clones as my friend grew dissatisfied with the midrange where he brought in a Jbl compression driver with a custom horn. And later a Fostex Super tweeter for the top.
As these are thought to be the holy grail of audio wizardry by some, I learned an important lesson from his process:Audiophiles of a certain type are never satisfied.
Lastly, it may be useful to mention the music one listened to at the time the speakers were auditioned.In My case: Ahmad Jamal, Willy Nelson's cover of "Stardust", Kadee Lang's "smoke" album and various asian audiophile classics in Japanese and Chinese, names unknown but excellent reference recordings even if the music was a bit cheesey at times.
As these are thought to be the holy grail of audio wizardry by some, I learned an important lesson from his process:Audiophiles of a certain type are never satisfied.
Lastly, it may be useful to mention the music one listened to at the time the speakers were auditioned.In My case: Ahmad Jamal, Willy Nelson's cover of "Stardust", Kadee Lang's "smoke" album and various asian audiophile classics in Japanese and Chinese, names unknown but excellent reference recordings even if the music was a bit cheesey at times.
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I hope the DIY crowd gets a wider, affordable selection of coincident drivers to work with. I got to hear some Genelecs a few weeks ago and.......never experienced anything quite like that. I've got to find some time to check out the TADs but I fear I'll be comparing every thing I hear to them....and remain permanently disappointed.
As a JBL connoisseur, could you tell me how many '80s 250ti and late '90s 250ti Jubilee were sold at MSRP, and how many at a fraction of that ?
Why not?
Especially since I did not comment on their sound quality at all, merely on an operational issue which was relayed to me by the owner of Lockwood Majors.
Lockwoods .
I heard some that I took to Austria in a Land Rover as a favour . I had no interest in them . I was forced to listen and at my bosses expense stayed over night ( his friend was the person who I delivered them to ) . I was gob smacked . They look all wrong and light as a feather .
Only use T&S to get your design off the ground . Do not let it listen to your speakers for you . Lockwoods prove that . In Formula one Red Bull have thrown away their version of T&S I suspect .
I heard some that I took to Austria in a Land Rover as a favour . I had no interest in them . I was forced to listen and at my bosses expense stayed over night ( his friend was the person who I delivered them to ) . I was gob smacked . They look all wrong and light as a feather .
Only use T&S to get your design off the ground . Do not let it listen to your speakers for you . Lockwoods prove that . In Formula one Red Bull have thrown away their version of T&S I suspect .
ADW Duetta
Hi!
From Udo Wohlgemuth, the famous (at least in DIY circles in Germany) Duetta and its variations:
Being somewhat simple in design, tt packs a very tight but still deep bass, and the highs from the ER4 etons are the best I have heard so far, even better than focal beryllium tweeters with the acoustic lens.
Construction: Duetta
Hi!
From Udo Wohlgemuth, the famous (at least in DIY circles in Germany) Duetta and its variations:
Being somewhat simple in design, tt packs a very tight but still deep bass, and the highs from the ER4 etons are the best I have heard so far, even better than focal beryllium tweeters with the acoustic lens.
Construction: Duetta
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Just looking at a speaker with a beryllium tweeter made me think of this .
FAL in Japan use one . Out off this world good . If you can not afford one select some Motorola horn pietzo's and build a crossovers at about 7 kHz . They will impress . Never let them go lower .
Air Motion Transformer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Just looking at a speaker with a beryllium tweeter made me think of this .
FAL in Japan use one . Out off this world good . If you can not afford one select some Motorola horn pietzo's and build a crossovers at about 7 kHz . They will impress . Never let them go lower .
I did a hunt for the Nao-Note drivers in the UK and came up with a lot of blanks.
Katie and Dad,
You seem to have the memory of a Goldfish! 😀
Linkwitz does not even recommend Class D amp's. I have already explained this to you before as have others.
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Originally Posted by KatieandDad
"I was looking at the Linkwitz Orion until I saw the choice of amplifier used.
Class D just doesn't cook the biscuit with me. I would like a design where I can choose the ampflication"
OK I put my hands up, they are Class A/B amps.
I still don't like not being able to choose my own amps.
OK OK OK again, I can opt for my own amps, and I am indeed looking into it.
The Orion is my favourite at the moment as I can purchase the drivers here in the UK.
This open baffle approach seems to be a common factor in amongst some of the contenders in this thread.
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Linkwitz Orion does not use any class D at all....
Linkwitz Orion does not use any class D at all. That speaker does not have the power amp's built in. Standard class AB amp's are recommended. Orion clones, typically found here are often paired with...
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