I use Windows 2000 Professional and FreeBSD for my desktops generally. I also have a NeXTStep box, a Minix-16 box, among a few other various things.
NT
I'm using windows xp pro.
And yes it's a legal copy(suprised).
Work like a charm as long as it work haha.
But it is really more stable than any other windows but lack dos support
NT stands for
not today
not tomorrow
I'm using windows xp pro.
And yes it's a legal copy(suprised).
Work like a charm as long as it work haha.
But it is really more stable than any other windows but lack dos support
NT stands for
not today
not tomorrow
I'm using Windows ME, and it sucks.😡 It's slow, freezes up all the time, can't run at least one program that I really want to run, and spent 3 hours downloading, etc, etc, etc.
Home Toy:
Windows 98 SE. Games and Internet usage mostly.
Workstations:
Primary PC - Win 2K-PRO. Compilers, Office, Ect.
Emulator PC - Win 98 SE. Nohau Emulators (old drivers)
Embedded:
QNX - X86
CMX - Philips 51XA and 8052
Next step: QNX on ARM
Phil
Windows 98 SE. Games and Internet usage mostly.
Workstations:
Primary PC - Win 2K-PRO. Compilers, Office, Ect.
Emulator PC - Win 98 SE. Nohau Emulators (old drivers)
Embedded:
QNX - X86
CMX - Philips 51XA and 8052
Next step: QNX on ARM
Phil
OS? Hmmmm....
On this computer: Windows 2000 Pro...on the Frankenstein here too: Xandros Linux.
And still pumping along nicely: Kaypro 10 with CP/M...a Z-80 running ZCPR/3 (holey moley! A 4kB OS that hasn't ever failed in 20 years.) Why the K10? It's a DIY thing folks...you just HAVE to hear that MicroScience platter drive spool up..sounds like a turbine JFS unit.
On this computer: Windows 2000 Pro...on the Frankenstein here too: Xandros Linux.
And still pumping along nicely: Kaypro 10 with CP/M...a Z-80 running ZCPR/3 (holey moley! A 4kB OS that hasn't ever failed in 20 years.) Why the K10? It's a DIY thing folks...you just HAVE to hear that MicroScience platter drive spool up..sounds like a turbine JFS unit.
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Actualy dos support is supported You just dont know how to set it up. if you want you can call 1-800 tech support from ms and pay 67.00 us to talkk to there usless tec's LOL actualy install your doss progie Example a speaker program and right click on the exe file and go to compatible mode and use win 95 or 98 : O ) Simple as that.JBL said:
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I use xp pro at work on my computer. and use conexant vpc to run mandrake and all the other windows 95 98 98 se and 2000 as im a tech and need acess to help people use and set up there computers. At home i have a mandrake firewall witch is running on a 133 with 64mb ram and a scsi hard drive. the mandrake box hasnt been rebooted in a year and does every thing. Mandrake in my mond rules it is easy to use and fun and has way more utilities than redhat.
here is a link to the firewall and there is also a newerversion that supports vpn now too. AHH time to change..
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/snf/features
here is a link to the firewall and there is also a newerversion that supports vpn now too. AHH time to change..
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/snf/features
I probably should get myself a copy of mandrake for my P200..... I tried running Windoze XP on it... well, it worked.... but.. 😛 lol
Re: NT
Have you tried to use the compatibility mode? just rightclick on the shortcut->properties->compatibility tab and select the opsys you prefer.
I use it for Eagle, for example.
bye!
rlehman said:
Have you tried to use the compatibility mode? just rightclick on the shortcut->properties->compatibility tab and select the opsys you prefer.
I use it for Eagle, for example.
bye!
I use Windows98 (legal copy!) on a crap computer only for surfing the net. It will soon be replaced.
Real work, Email and everything is done under a variation of "Linux from Scratch" www.linuxfromscratch.org, a guide how to compile your custom LGNU/Linux system from scratch with nothing but the source code downloaded from the net.
It's fast as light and rock solid stable!
I use Mozilla, pine for email, LaTeX for typesetting, OpenOffice for occasional spread sheet calculations, ... and lots of other free software. If I wanted the same power and same function from Microsoft products, I'd probably have to spend more $$ than I have spent on my audio parts during the last ten years!
Real work, Email and everything is done under a variation of "Linux from Scratch" www.linuxfromscratch.org, a guide how to compile your custom LGNU/Linux system from scratch with nothing but the source code downloaded from the net.
It's fast as light and rock solid stable!
I use Mozilla, pine for email, LaTeX for typesetting, OpenOffice for occasional spread sheet calculations, ... and lots of other free software. If I wanted the same power and same function from Microsoft products, I'd probably have to spend more $$ than I have spent on my audio parts during the last ten years!
98SE Works Fine For Me .....
Never hangs, never crashes - am I the only one ?.
A bit slow to load up, some niggling slow bits (like File menu/New/Folder), but if you are happy to put up with nagware, you can get software for just about any purpose you could ever want for free.
A year ago I did try a newsagent magazine version of Linux, and I did not spend enough time with it to get the full hang of it, but some aspects seemed difficult and quirky, and seemingly some for the only reason of being different to MS.
I found the boot speed to be as slow as 98SE, and programs no faster.
I find the customisability and ergonomics of 98SE are pretty damm good, and it would take a convincing arguement to to sway me into another learning curve.
Apart from alleged (and I have heard it does) non crashing, what is so good about Linux ?.
Never hangs, never crashes - am I the only one ?.
A bit slow to load up, some niggling slow bits (like File menu/New/Folder), but if you are happy to put up with nagware, you can get software for just about any purpose you could ever want for free.
A year ago I did try a newsagent magazine version of Linux, and I did not spend enough time with it to get the full hang of it, but some aspects seemed difficult and quirky, and seemingly some for the only reason of being different to MS.
I found the boot speed to be as slow as 98SE, and programs no faster.
I find the customisability and ergonomics of 98SE are pretty damm good, and it would take a convincing arguement to to sway me into another learning curve.
Apart from alleged (and I have heard it does) non crashing, what is so good about Linux ?.
SkinnyBoy said:
I guess I should have been a little clearer. I'm well aware Linux will run quite nicely on it. I started running Linux on a P66 with 32Meg of memory! (And yes it was kernel version like 1.0.9!)
I was meaning as to why its running 98 and not 2000. I don't have linux on it because its too slow and has too little memory to do much "real" work on. (It only has 64meg) When I upgrade my main machine, this machine gets the old parts from that one, and the old parts for this either go to a needy family or might become a second server on my network. (Then it'll run Linux!)
Not MS Supporting, And Not MS Bashing Either...
Hi .......... ,
"1) It is more stable, period. I have servers with documented uptimes > 1 year, and the only reason they are not greater still is that the machines must be shut down occasionally for upgrades and whatnot."
My machine gets turned off whenever I am not using it, so long term reliability is not a problem to me.
"2) Vastly superior security and immunity to viri, when properly configured."
That sounds encouraging.....except for the 'properly' part.
"3) Complete freedom to re-arrange and re-configure the entire OS in any manner you wish. MS operating systems assume that the user is stupid, and the OS knows best.
MS are completely right in assuming that most users are stupid ... they are, believe me.
This makes them somewhat unpredictable, and frustrating.
Who ? - the MS users or the MS OS designers.
With Linux, every aspect of the OS is completely under your control. What this means, though, is that effective use of Linux requires much greater knowledge of OS internals. All this added power and control comes at the cost of a steep learning curve. "
That is the hard part for a lot of tecnologically or time challenged people.
What useful ergonomic customisation is available - examples ?.
"4) Linux does not come from a shady, monopolistic corporation who distorts the truth, mangles open standards, and strangles the competition. Linux is free, not necessarily in the monetary sense, but in the philosophical sense. Have you ever read the EULA for Windows XP? Frightening stuff... You authorize MS to access any information on your computer at any time..."
Yes MS do seem to have a bad record in market domination tactics - so do mobs like Monsanto, Coca-Cola, etc - the list is long.
I have not used XP so I have not read the EULA.
What do you mean by "You authorize MS to access any information on your computer at any time." ? - that sounds pretty extreme and far reaching - what are their reasons (justifications ?) for this.
Despite this, Windows makes a fine product for a helluva lot of people, installs (reinstalls) easily, and does what most people want from a typical home or office computer, and MS products help to keep a lot of IT people in business.
That is not meant as support for MS, but so far what is available (Linux version ?) that is as easy to install and configure as Windows ?.
Eric.
Hi .......... ,
"1) It is more stable, period. I have servers with documented uptimes > 1 year, and the only reason they are not greater still is that the machines must be shut down occasionally for upgrades and whatnot."
My machine gets turned off whenever I am not using it, so long term reliability is not a problem to me.
"2) Vastly superior security and immunity to viri, when properly configured."
That sounds encouraging.....except for the 'properly' part.
"3) Complete freedom to re-arrange and re-configure the entire OS in any manner you wish. MS operating systems assume that the user is stupid, and the OS knows best.
MS are completely right in assuming that most users are stupid ... they are, believe me.
This makes them somewhat unpredictable, and frustrating.
Who ? - the MS users or the MS OS designers.
With Linux, every aspect of the OS is completely under your control. What this means, though, is that effective use of Linux requires much greater knowledge of OS internals. All this added power and control comes at the cost of a steep learning curve. "
That is the hard part for a lot of tecnologically or time challenged people.
What useful ergonomic customisation is available - examples ?.
"4) Linux does not come from a shady, monopolistic corporation who distorts the truth, mangles open standards, and strangles the competition. Linux is free, not necessarily in the monetary sense, but in the philosophical sense. Have you ever read the EULA for Windows XP? Frightening stuff... You authorize MS to access any information on your computer at any time..."
Yes MS do seem to have a bad record in market domination tactics - so do mobs like Monsanto, Coca-Cola, etc - the list is long.
I have not used XP so I have not read the EULA.
What do you mean by "You authorize MS to access any information on your computer at any time." ? - that sounds pretty extreme and far reaching - what are their reasons (justifications ?) for this.
Despite this, Windows makes a fine product for a helluva lot of people, installs (reinstalls) easily, and does what most people want from a typical home or office computer, and MS products help to keep a lot of IT people in business.
That is not meant as support for MS, but so far what is available (Linux version ?) that is as easy to install and configure as Windows ?.
Eric.
Re: Not MS Supporting, And Not MS Bashing Either...
First of all, I should clarify my viewpoint. I'm not saying that Microsoft should be eliminated entirely, and that Linux should be the only OS on the planet. Linux is not for everyone, and Microsoft products do have their place. I'm only saying that we need competition. We need alternatives. And Linux provides a very powerful and stable alternative, for those willing to delve into the depths of their computers.
First of all, I should clarify my viewpoint. I'm not saying that Microsoft should be eliminated entirely, and that Linux should be the only OS on the planet. Linux is not for everyone, and Microsoft products do have their place. I'm only saying that we need competition. We need alternatives. And Linux provides a very powerful and stable alternative, for those willing to delve into the depths of their computers.
mrfeedback said:
Unsafe At Any Speed....
Hi ...........?,
Thanks for the good answers.
"Have you heard anything about Palladium? Before you know it, you will not be able to run any software on your computer unless Microsoft, Hollywood, and Disney says you can. "
Yeah, that all sounds ugly and undemocratic - how much collusion is there between MS and authorities like the FBI, CIA, IRS or other departments in designing in, secret features for auditing,snooping or other purposes ?.
I think we are headed for a totally accountable and recorded western world - manufacturers, shareholders and the like, of course want piracy elimination, and governments want traceability.
Until they can demonstrate complete reliability, security and virus immunity I think they are peddling faulty products (remember Ralph Naders crusade ?) and ought to be kept accountable, and good on the Linux movement for the collective stand that is arising.
Is there a 'dumbed down' (Windows copy) Linux version that would be more suitable for the average Windows user ?.
" And all the DRM issues... " Pardon my ignorance, what is that ?.
Regards, Eric.
Hi ...........?,
Thanks for the good answers.
"Have you heard anything about Palladium? Before you know it, you will not be able to run any software on your computer unless Microsoft, Hollywood, and Disney says you can. "
Yeah, that all sounds ugly and undemocratic - how much collusion is there between MS and authorities like the FBI, CIA, IRS or other departments in designing in, secret features for auditing,snooping or other purposes ?.
I think we are headed for a totally accountable and recorded western world - manufacturers, shareholders and the like, of course want piracy elimination, and governments want traceability.
Until they can demonstrate complete reliability, security and virus immunity I think they are peddling faulty products (remember Ralph Naders crusade ?) and ought to be kept accountable, and good on the Linux movement for the collective stand that is arising.
Is there a 'dumbed down' (Windows copy) Linux version that would be more suitable for the average Windows user ?.
" And all the DRM issues... " Pardon my ignorance, what is that ?.
Regards, Eric.
W2K and Suze 7.3 on different machines. W2K sheduled for elimination by the end of the year. May be faster, depending on time available.
Palladuim? Well, if MS, Disney etc say you can't run it on linux, what are you going to do about it? Same for DRM. If it becomes a standard, Linux will have to follow or we have to go underground like criminals, refusing to run MS.
Start hollering about all the things they are messing around with simple audio CD's. According to Phillips they can't even call them "digital audio compact disc" anymore so are they messed up. The list of labels protecting (corrupting is a better word) is getting long indeed.
Sorry, my blood pressure is rising, I better stop here.
Palladuim? Well, if MS, Disney etc say you can't run it on linux, what are you going to do about it? Same for DRM. If it becomes a standard, Linux will have to follow or we have to go underground like criminals, refusing to run MS.
Start hollering about all the things they are messing around with simple audio CD's. According to Phillips they can't even call them "digital audio compact disc" anymore so are they messed up. The list of labels protecting (corrupting is a better word) is getting long indeed.
Sorry, my blood pressure is rising, I better stop here.
If Linux was the operating system installed on computers when they were sold, then people would learn how to use Linux rather than Windoze... I learnt Windows from my 386 computer... I installed Windows on it myself, but I knew no other operating system... 🙁 I probably should have installed Linux on my grandparents computer 🙂 but I didn't think of it at the time.. 🙁 umm, Sparhawk, when quoting s post, I find it quite hard to know what you've typed when you put your reply in the quote as well, sorry.. 🙁 If you want to add a seperate reply to one persons seperate points, then perhaps you could number the persons points in the quote, then number your answering points not in the quote.. 🙂 sorry for the nit picking.. 😛 😀
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