What is the Universe expanding into..

Do you think there was anything before the big bang?

  • I don't think there was anything before the Big Bang

    Votes: 56 12.5%

  • I think something existed before the Big Bang

    Votes: 200 44.7%

  • I don't think the big bang happened

    Votes: 54 12.1%

  • I think the universe is part of a mutiverse

    Votes: 201 45.0%
  • Total voters
    447
Status
Not open for further replies.
Jump to Latest
#10,161
Galu said:
No, the universe was/is all that there was/is - there was/is nothing outside of it.
Click to expand...
I think thats the common understanding yes but I think also it's a bit limited thinking. You stated a certain diameter at a certain time. That figure was not infinity. So logic dictates that there is something "more". We just cant envision it... yet. At least one could name this, if noting else, logical object. But it is most probable physical and I bet it has something to do with the dark doublet. The information model of the cosmos is not complete as I see it - it halts and is crocked.... whats lacking is the top object and its properties.

//
 
#10,163
TNT said:
I think thats the common understanding yes but I think also it's a bit limited thinking. You stated a certain diameter at a certain time. That figure was not infinity. So logic dictates that there is something "more". We just cant envision it... yet. At least one could name this, if noting else, logical object. But it is most probable physical and I bet it has something to do with the dark doublet. The information model of the cosmos is not complete as I see it - it halts and is crocked.... whats lacking is the top object and its properties.

//
Click to expand...
While there could be something other than the spacetime bubble of our universe, there does not have to be. Logic most certainly does not dictate that. Brane theory allows for this, as does a multiverse. But neither of these are things "outside" in any useful sense of the word.
 
#10,166
TNT said:
You stated a certain diameter (of the universe) at a certain time. That figure was not infinity. So logic dictates that there is something "more".
Click to expand...

I can accept that, even if that something "more" was a formless void of nothingness, it would still be part of the universe.

I also understand that there is nothing in our mathematical description of the universe that demands something "more" outside.

It could be that our universe is embedded in some larger, multidimensional construct, as suggested by some of the more exotic models of physics.
 
#10,170
Time for a Mathematical Joke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert's_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel

An Infinite Set of Mathematicians enter a Bar:

The lead one says I will have a Pint. The second one says I will have a half-Pint. The third one says I will have a quarter Pint.

The Barman is growing weary. He says "I know the answer to this. I am serving up two Pints, and you can sort it out for yourselves." 😀
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bonsai
#10,180
Oh, ok - as simple as that!

You probably meant "doesn't".
Your sentence is still not right, as it appears to have some redundant content, hence good ole DP's suggested edit.
Oh and only crazy americanos 🙂 call it math - we call it maths, short for mathematics.
Did you mean, simply "Mathematics does not describe all reality"?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom