What is the Universe expanding into..

Do you think there was anything before the big bang?

  • I don't think there was anything before the Big Bang

    Votes: 56 12.5%

  • I think something existed before the Big Bang

    Votes: 200 44.7%

  • I don't think the big bang happened

    Votes: 54 12.1%

  • I think the universe is part of a mutiverse

    Votes: 201 45.0%
  • Total voters
    447
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M Gregg said:
Time seems to be needed to separate events without time everything would happen at once..(the big bang)..Humm perhaps I am answering my own question.. infinity can't happen with expansion ..what about expansion with t=0..more thought..😀

That's nuts..with t=0 there is no future or past it just appears ..zap! (there is no limit to what can happen in less than a moment occurrences like reactions we think are limited to set time events..)

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M. Gregg
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First : with t=0 I guess things just are... they exist and their size can be determined. but what if size is a product of (dt)? Than it would be impossible to determine size @ t=0. Only in time (dt) things can change.

I like to agree that infinity can't be the result of (dt) nor of (t=0). So the concept of infinity should be ludicrous and people claiming multiple times infinity therefore ought to be institutionalized.. 😀
 
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Hurk, too much complicate for a wookie who can not succeed to finish a simple shunt regulator on a verroboard !

While hit the wing of my Falcon Millenium with a hammer, I'm asking myself:

Is the zero time starting point not said to be a conceptual artifact today ? Which is just the conclusion than Planck wall could not be "climbed" 😀 !

Infinite (galaxies which move aways from each others) is made of empty or already full of Higgs particles ?😕 which would say than infinite expands in marmelade (of bosons !) !

Does the infinite concept needs the concept of time to be thinked ? (I mean distance and time is two side of a same coin when Einstein is explained to kids like I am yet at 45 ! So distance is not a linear concept like audio) ! (I.E. : the more you pay the more your sound is infinite !)

Pfffff my cat doesnt' want to go out of the box when I'm looking to it !
 
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Eldam said:
Infinite (galaxies which move aways from each others) is made of empty or already full of Higgs particles ?😕 which would say than infinite expands in marmelade (of bosons !) !
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The Higgs field and Boson

http://www.fnal.gov/pub/science/inquiring/questions/higgs_boson.html

I though this was quite good..

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein 😀


https://plus.maths.org/content/does-infinity-exist

Regards
M. Gregg
 
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M Gregg said:
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
― Albert Einstein 😀

Regards
M. Gregg
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Ah, I understood why the cat is still in the box ! I changed the experiment by swapping the poison by food ! Putted too much food ! The cat is dead twice ! He starved and explosed by too much food in the same time !

wookie !

PS... human stupidity... not sure it is infinite... we are just 7 billions !
 
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Large Hadron Collider is currently being restarted after 2 years of work. Starting up at 13 TeV rather than the handicapped 8 TeV that it was working at before. Guess it still needs some mods to get to it's design spec of 14.

Will dark matter reveal it's secrets? Dark matter | CERN

Black holes? Mini Black Holes Easier To Make Than Thought | Large Hadron Collider

Parallel universes? Want to know the other you? Large Hadron Collider could prove parallel universes | OregonLive.com

Time will tell. Till then I'll be singing the Higgs Boson Blues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GWsdqCYvgw
 
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M Gregg said:
Its more convenient if other dimensions don't exist.. and that the universe is all there is..that death is the end of life...and the universe is not alive..

The impact of knowing the reverse of the above is unthinkable.
(think about it!)

Regards
M. Gregg
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Convenient???? How relevant would it be knowing there are more dimensions than the 4 we can observe? Would it blow our minds? Stop us from performing our duties?.. make us love in a different way?

Dying is a state of transition, and death the phase of decay following that transition. Both are only applicable to the individual.. life however continues in some way. To life the number of dimensions is irrelevant for it (life) "IS" anyway...

... and now for some Lithium (evanescence) ... 😎

Regards...
 
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fas42 said:
Well, I'm not sure now whether to think ... or not to think (, that is the ... )
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Just for interest,

Big Bang Abandoned in New Model of the Universe | MIT Technology Review

Sometimes even the questions are like a mandelbrot set..the idea was sometime ago..

Then you have the other argument..


http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/3-q-alan-guth-on-new-insights-into-the-big-bang

I'm beginning to wonder how you have an unbiased opinion..😀

Does the limitation of mans understanding effect the tests/experiments..ie is science unbiased?
It might seem like a daft question..however we can only ask questions we can think of asking..(this is not in a religious context)
Ie we are answering our own questions..who else can ask them?
What I'm saying is what is discovery? the answers are already there..
What questions should we be asking?

Regards
M. Gregg
 

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Why don't we understand what we are looking for?

Who is we?
Is there an actual answer or is the idea that there is one a delusion?

Physics is "Now in time"..what if physics is a variable?

Stupid idea just for fun..
The many worlds theory everything that can happen, happens in other realities..what if everything that can't happen also happens in a sort of anti state other realities?

The assumption is reality follows our rules in a positive way confirming our beliefs..

Regards
M. Gregg
 
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Here is one more for fun,

We are all individuals....really?
Its about as individual as the planets in the universe..

The idea that there could be aliens and us..we are individuals..like blood cells are individual, however they are part of the whole thing.

Is the universe one or many?

Stupid ideas..above however we can accept the following.

The universe is all there is...it started with a singularity and expanded to an infinite size..then again its not infinite but its all there is?

Where is that cat?

LOL I noticed someone on one of the answer sections of a post said, ."It's obvious we are in a black hole and as the black hole takes in more matter the inside expands.."

Regards
M. Gregg
 
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M Gregg said:
Does the limitation of mans understanding effect the tests/experiments..
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(IMHO) Yes, but that's only a microquestion, though it led you to ask:
ie is science unbiased?
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And the answer is clearly yes, as anyone who realizes their observations and perceptions have sometimes fooled them (see various audio-related sections of this forum), but the other side of that question is that science is humankind's attempt to be as unbiased as possible, in spite of itself.

This bit about the planet Mercury is one of the more fascinating mistakes in science - with several observations, astronomers made the "entitely reasonable conclusion" that Mercury was tidally locked in its orbit around the Sun. As the observations were a sampled system, one might use the modern buzzword aliasing to describe the error:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(planet)#Spin.E2.80.93orbit_resonance

Science is an ongoing attempt to increase the signal-to-noise ratio of facts.
 
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