Hearing ages too into your golden 👍ears. Do we believe the old posters and sellers here who say they can hear small details that others can't?
My point was about awareness of the same situation as discussed in IT books. If we are aware of the situation we will not easily believe everything and we will tend to do validation efforts. Simple thing is to read old posts from a member to know his background. We may also develop a list of members with good ears, members with bad ears who always say any amp sound good, etc. etc. 😀
Threads about opamps (and resistors too) are gold mines for me. Who, and what people say about the sound of opamps. Mostly what i see are people who do not know that opamp sound depends on the implementation but there are a few who know exactly what they are talking about.
Yes, I know who I can believe. Some people think that a measurement from an audiolgist is important, but no, it doesn't work that way. Like many measurements are just irrelevant with the issue being studied.
If you hate "grain" in your sound, but are a lover of Haribbo Gummi Bears, then take four such Gummi Bears and put them under the feet of your DAC.
Then, take yet another set of such Gummi Bears, and place them under the feet of your amplifier.
Most probably, the "grain" will be much less of a nuisance.
If you do not eat Harribo Gummi Bears, try soft squash balls, cut into two halves.
One squash ball ==>> Two supports for your audio equipment.
Then, take yet another set of such Gummi Bears, and place them under the feet of your amplifier.
Most probably, the "grain" will be much less of a nuisance.
If you do not eat Harribo Gummi Bears, try soft squash balls, cut into two halves.
One squash ball ==>> Two supports for your audio equipment.
the mother bat can listen and locate her young among thousands
of them screaming inside a cave, when I knew about this I found it miraculous. It's the human ear so sensitive?, I don't know but I feel it's more
than we think.
BR
of them screaming inside a cave, when I knew about this I found it miraculous. It's the human ear so sensitive?, I don't know but I feel it's more
than we think.
BR
Still no citing of trusted validation method.
Are you sure it doesn't work that way? I wonder what validation method you used to arrive to that conclusion.
Are you sure it doesn't work that way? I wonder what validation method you used to arrive to that conclusion.
Don't worry about me. Just make sure you have a good one 🙂
You are the one who stated it doesn't work that way. The onus is on you to back it up.
What backup you are requesting? Measurements? I'm here just to share what I'm willing to share (and there are things that I won't). Mostly, our listening skill is quite independent of the existence or the ability to hear the highest frequencies. If we lost all of our hearing, we can't implement our knowledge and skill. But listening skill is mostly related to audio below 10kHz. It's fine if you lose the top octave(s), but it is a big problem if you lose the lowest octave!!
Unless you were there at the mastering/mixing process of the recording, unfortunately you don't know what the original was in order to judge what it's being true to...
If a naturally harsh sound is too distracting from the whole, an engineer somewhere along the creative chain will likely take the decision to remove that harshness.. or maybe general limiting is introduced for something more automated.
You can risk making choices that end up compensating for that creative choice and end up with an overly hard system when playing more natural material... but then blame the recording.
Good to make your own recordings ..
So I guess a sort of gating effect, or negative compression (there's a better term for that, I can't think of).
Or a non-linear gain that quickly increases after a threshold.
So it turns out that you made things up when you stated "Some people think that a measurement from an audiolgist is important, but no, it doesn't work that way."
Hi ! you are very right of course ... but some labels like for instance Ma Recordings are dedicated to make recordings very true to the original.
I have seen a video on Youtube that fascinated me a lot indeed.
This is the link
YouTube
what amazes me most are the comments of listeners at the end. Some actually preferred the recordings played-back on a very good rig to the original 😱😱😱
That would be fantastic ... sometimes i read something that makes me dream about music reproduction like these words ...
more real than real ... wow 🙂
Another one that hit me immensely ...
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skem,
topology and orthogonality are of central importance here.
Two oppositely directed forces of similar strength create an unstable-metastable state. It includes a nonreactive orthogonal coupling to the driving magnetic field resulting in heavy signal loss (loss of all even order spectral components in addition to the losses occuring for various other reasons).
Stability has an unexpressible continuous magnitude, "settled" is not a very accurate assessment. After phase compensation, the amplifier becomes usable, but remains largely unstable, exhibiting poor high frequency response and high distortion.
By convention, only the (unexcited) ground electronic state is considered to be stable.
Orthogonality does not apply to signals. Signals cannot be treated analytically.
Carbon has superior general and high frequency properties, Allen Bradley carbon composite resistors being (one of) the very best. The high static noise and lack of precision play a subordinate role, it is signal handling that matters. Of course, any noise has a harmful impact on the signal.
topology and orthogonality are of central importance here.
Two oppositely directed forces of similar strength create an unstable-metastable state. It includes a nonreactive orthogonal coupling to the driving magnetic field resulting in heavy signal loss (loss of all even order spectral components in addition to the losses occuring for various other reasons).
Stability has an unexpressible continuous magnitude, "settled" is not a very accurate assessment. After phase compensation, the amplifier becomes usable, but remains largely unstable, exhibiting poor high frequency response and high distortion.
By convention, only the (unexcited) ground electronic state is considered to be stable.
Orthogonality does not apply to signals. Signals cannot be treated analytically.
Carbon has superior general and high frequency properties, Allen Bradley carbon composite resistors being (one of) the very best. The high static noise and lack of precision play a subordinate role, it is signal handling that matters. Of course, any noise has a harmful impact on the signal.
It seems to sound that way. I think that your use of the term "compression" may not be far away from the objective mechanism. Perhaps, it is caused by the dynamic behavior of a signal's distortion spectra. I wouldn't think that the output signal's amplitude is in error to any overtly audible degree. However, that's only a supposition which may be incorrect, particularly, since harmonic distortion is due to an amplifier's gain not being perfectly uniform across all input signal amplitudes and frequencies.
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"No matter how good the sound system, there will be some lost". Some people are trained to hear what was lost and some are 'trained' (actually you don't need to be trained for this) to hear what was not heard.
He said "a quiet guitar and vocalist is one of the hardest things to realise...." Really, I thought it was often used in demos because it's one of the easiest things to realise.