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I think I will rewind the coil myself but it looks like I will have to use copper wire.
Michael, why not try writing a very nice letter to Lowther UK, tell them what you are trying to achieve and ask if they would be willing to provide an adventurer as yourself with some new Al voice coil wire as they do use it in their own drivers (obviously at your own cost and risk). I believe Trevor is a really nice guy so it’s worth a try.
By the sound of it, your drivers share a bit of DNA with Lowther.
Also, Google search about making reliable connections between the Al and the Cu as you can’t expect Lowther to give you their secret sauce.
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In magnet strength terms how does this Visataon 5 inch compare?
Soundlabs Group AL 130 M - 8 Ohm
One of the few I know of that actually give that detail in the specifications. This is the Wharfedale tweeter that fires vertically isn't it? In combination with the 12" and 10"
Soundlabs Group AL 130 M - 8 Ohm
One of the few I know of that actually give that detail in the specifications. This is the Wharfedale tweeter that fires vertically isn't it? In combination with the 12" and 10"
The 60,000 maxwell flux of the Super 5 is equivalent to 0.0006 weber.
The Visaton AL-130M flux is 0.00045 weber.
The Visaton is an interesting unit, but is a midrange driver whereas the Super 5 was designated as a tweeter. It also has a stiff aluminium cone and not the soft paper cone of the Super 5.
It was the Super 3 which fired vertically in the SFB/3 and also in the Airedale.
The Super 5, in its own internal enclosure, was used as the tweeter in the W2.
I have to correct what I said earlier about the W4 - it did not use two Super 5s, but used a Super 3 tweeter and two 5" W3 midrange drivers.
Have you still got your 'A Pair of Wharfedales' book, or did someone take you up on your generous offer of passing it on to them?
The Visaton AL-130M flux is 0.00045 weber.
The Visaton is an interesting unit, but is a midrange driver whereas the Super 5 was designated as a tweeter. It also has a stiff aluminium cone and not the soft paper cone of the Super 5.
It was the Super 3 which fired vertically in the SFB/3 and also in the Airedale.
The Super 5, in its own internal enclosure, was used as the tweeter in the W2.
I have to correct what I said earlier about the W4 - it did not use two Super 5s, but used a Super 3 tweeter and two 5" W3 midrange drivers.
Have you still got your 'A Pair of Wharfedales' book, or did someone take you up on your generous offer of passing it on to them?
I have made a major design decision thanks to this thread. 🙂
Always been fond of cone tweeters, here the tremendously cheap Monacor HT-22/8:
Bit rubbish above 10 kHz, but never offends the ear.
planet10 (dave) quite rates this one on tweeter duties, the CHN-50: CHN-50 full range driver | KJF Audio
I have just bought the last pair. Eat your heart out. A 2 litre box shouldn't be hard. I don't waste time on ancient speakers. They fall apart. 😎
Always been fond of cone tweeters, here the tremendously cheap Monacor HT-22/8:
Bit rubbish above 10 kHz, but never offends the ear.
planet10 (dave) quite rates this one on tweeter duties, the CHN-50: CHN-50 full range driver | KJF Audio
I have just bought the last pair. Eat your heart out. A 2 litre box shouldn't be hard. I don't waste time on ancient speakers. They fall apart. 😎
Optimum 2.5 litre.
Listening to a WAW right now, with the CHN50’s big brother Alpair 5.2.
BIG :^)
Have fun.
dave
Listening to a WAW right now, with the CHN50’s big brother Alpair 5.2.
BIG :^)
Have fun.
dave
My pair of Wharfedale RS/12/DD full range drivers date from 1967, and their build quality is superb.I don't waste time on ancient speakers. They fall apart. 😎
After more than half a century, the drivers remain in perfect working order, while it is I who is falling apart! 😛
My experience is a bit different. Drivers age differently.
I got a “pair” of the 8” version and was excited about treating them with a UK flapper-caot, bu twhen measured they were so far apart i set them aside into the free pile. The metal dustcap also had to go. It was painful.
Any chance they have the same VC as these 5s?
dave
I got a “pair” of the 8” version and was excited about treating them with a UK flapper-caot, bu twhen measured they were so far apart i set them aside into the free pile. The metal dustcap also had to go. It was painful.
Any chance they have the same VC as these 5s?
dave
I just found this pair of 3" on eBay Need a "Little" bit of work tho
Pair of Wharfdale super 3 speakers early 10 ohms quality hifi audio | eBay
And these
Awesome pair of 1964 Wharfedale Super 3 Tweeters - DYI Project! | eBay
But apparently Troels isn't impressed. Is it simply nostalgia?
Pair of Wharfdale super 3 speakers early 10 ohms quality hifi audio | eBay
And these
Awesome pair of 1964 Wharfedale Super 3 Tweeters - DYI Project! | eBay
But apparently Troels isn't impressed. Is it simply nostalgia?
Surrounds often go. I don’t think mine have any. But i think i still have the right material to make one.
The price for the pair with the surrounds is likely a bargain, i got $100 USD for a Pair like th echeap ones (i did provide a sheet of th esurround material with).
And i sold some vintag edrivers to Japanese buyers who were going to rewind the fried VCs, so it can be done by a skilled craftsman.
dave
The price for the pair with the surrounds is likely a bargain, i got $100 USD for a Pair like th echeap ones (i did provide a sheet of th esurround material with).
And i sold some vintag edrivers to Japanese buyers who were going to rewind the fried VCs, so it can be done by a skilled craftsman.
dave
See VaNarn's post #15.I got a “pair” of the 8” version . . . Any chance they have the same VC as these 5s?
The only other Wharfedale speakers using the exact same voice coil were the 8'' Bronze/FS/AL, the Super 8/FS/AL and the 8/145.
Thanx, i’ll try to remember to check when i go downstairs to see exactly what mine are.
BTW, being frustrated by these, i put the pattern on the last set of FE127eN.

dave
Not that you are above charity shop finds! 😉I don't waste time on ancient speakers. They fall apart. 😎
Pictured is your refurbished Wharfedale Shelton XP2 - a product of Rank Radio International which dates from 1977.
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