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Smoking a plant that grows wild is a crime, but drinking a processed liquid is ok



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This is particularly absurd when you consider the science of both.

Alcohol is, quite literally, a poison. It functions by preventing the uptake of oxygen in the bloodstream. The "impairment" is caused by lack of oxygen in the brain. Drink enough, and your body either ejects the excess or dies. The terminal dose of alcohol is well-documented. Many (millions?) people have succumbed (not to mention those who have died due to liver damage, car accidents, etc. etc.)

Marijuana, on the other hand, is comprised of delta-9 tetra-hydra-cannibinol (THC) and many other cannabinoids such as CBD. Many of us already know this. What is truly remarkable, however, is that the human body and brain contains more cannabinoid chemo-receptors than any other type of chemo-receptor. A chemo-receptor is like a "lock" into which a specific type of "key" fits which instigates a bio-chemical reaction. Each type of chemo-receptor has only one purpose - only one key fits in the lock. The cannabinoid chemo-receptors and associated biochemical components are referred to as our "endocannabinoid system". Our bodies and brains are full of these little locks, and the vast majority of them serve one single purpose; to reap the massive benefits of cannabinoids. The terminal dose of cannabis is 15 pounds, smoked in 15 minutes - cause of death is smoke inhalation. There are zero documented cases.

It seems sad, in an odd sort of way, that many people go their entire lives without utilizing the vast majority of chemo-receptors in their bodies and brains (while they willingly poison themselves with alcohol).

So, the alcohol vs. pot debate is quite laughable when subjected to objective, scientific scrutiny.

The only other arguments against pot are moral ones, and those arguments can apply equally against any drug (or poison) including and especially alcohol.

The moral arguments are mostly invalid, of course. Particularly with pot. If one comes to understand the extremely complex and deep biological relationship between our endocannabinoid system and the marijuana plant, one might even come to the conclusion that it was by design.
 
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cogitech - be that as it may, I enjoy the effects of alcohol more than the effects of pot. You pick your poison.

I support everyone's right to choose for themselves, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.

I enjoy the effects of many things, but I try to make the healthier choices more often than not. Alcohol is a mixed bag for me. I enjoy it, but when I do, I enjoy it too much. I have never had that issue with any other substance. I am a better person when I don't drink, or when I drink very little. I owe it to my family to make the right choice. This does not make me judge those who make other choices.
 
cogitech - be that as it may, I enjoy the effects of alcohol more than the effects of pot. You pick your poison.

I don`t think pot is a poison but never mind that, you can use your favorite poison all over the world legally and I can not. That is not fair and you can die for real, by abusing alcohol or get seriously addicted.
I`ve been off and on with pot and after a period of smoking every day, all day, for 5-6 month I got bored and stopped whenever I wanted and I was just a little nervous only day or two after that. Try that with alcohol and I bet you`ll see the "charms" of that legal substance. So one can not equalize alcohol and pot...
 
vast majority of them serve one single purpose; to reap the massive benefits of cannabinoids.

Yes, there are zillions of sockets built into our bodies designed specifically for, and waiting for a joint to be plugged into them.

There are people who will bring up the issue that SMOKING the weed is not good for you. Dig into the limited and largely unpublished research and ask where are the lung cancer deaths among weed smokers? Dig a bit more and you will find that the lung cancer incidents among cigarette smokers who also smoke weed are lower than those who just smoke cigarettes.

There are those who claim that weed is addictive. That has largely been disproven, but there is some evidence of "psychological dependence." I smoked daily for 20 years and then abruptly quit with zero ill effects, but I know people who were unwilling to give it up despite seeing some of their friends fired for failing a company drug test.

"Weed leads to harder drugs" Yeah, I just smoked a joint, so now I need some heroin.....doesn't happen. Most of my weed smoking friends did not do ANY other drugs, and some criticized my use of acid and 'ludes. A "normal" person can decide what's right for them. Of course there are people who can't or won't make that choice, and will try anything that comes their way. They will find a way to do themselves in whether it involved drugs or some other risky behavior.

There is some convincing research that links childhood ADHD, whether controlled later in life or not, with risky behavior, and the "all cause" mortality rate IS higher for this population.

On the other hand the addictive and health harming effects of alcohol are well known.

Alcohol is a mixed bag for me. I enjoy it, but when I do, I enjoy it too much. I have never had that issue with any other substance

I had the same problem. I tended to consume more than I should, and even though I was enjoying myself, those around me did not.

One day I saw a bumper sticker on a BMW that read "Instant A$$hole, just add alcohol" and I realized that was me! I have since restricted my consumption to 1 beer per day max.....and that happens maybe 5 times per year.
 
I do like a few beers but I must enjoy in extreme moderation due to health reasons, I had pancreatitis recently.

In my youth I never liked alcohol. Most kids were getting wasted at high school parties buy I just liked pot and psychedelics.

I am not saying alcohol should be illegal, but if alcohol is legal so shouldn't marijuana. Marijuana is extremely user friendly and most people have positive experiences with it.

Alcohol is EXTREMELY dangerous stuff. Horrible for the human body, people dog heroin use, but in reality opiates aside from addiction issues and the associated health problems with the use of it (dirty needles, dirty heroin etc..) have very little harm to the human body.

I end up leaving most social events early due to the intoxicated crowd being super annoying. I like a beer or three but for gods sake man when you are swaying and slurring and can't hold even close to a early primate conversation well...........is lost my train of thought..............puff puff........🙂
 
Saving up my spare change for one of these: Arizer Air Portable Diffuser

I already have the non-portable version hidden behind an old air filter box at the back of my shed, but I'd like to be able to have something in my pocket so I can sneak off to the bathroom at parties full of drunk people, and return with that nice, happy glow that does my soul so much good.

By the way; any of you ex-pot-smokers who find modern pot too strong and don't like getting way too baked - try a vapourizer! So clean, so tasty, and you can easily regulate the device to get exactly the buzz you want. You'll be the only one who knows you are medicated.
 
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There are some people who drink who are "good at it", and then there's some people who just can't handle it and shouldn't drink. Doug Stanhope and Christopher Hitchens would be two examples of people who can (or could have) drink pretty much all they want and the people around them don't suffer as a result...at least don't suffer any more, depending on your opinion of either of those men.

Some people just suck at it and shouldn't drink. There's nothing worse than a sloppy drunk.

Weed on the other hand, I can safely say I've never been annoyed by anyone who's "too high" to the point where it becomes an irritant.
 
yeah, exactly the buzz you want 😀🙄🙂
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So clean, so tasty, and you can easily regulate the device to get exactly the buzz you want. You'll be the only one who knows you are medicated.
 
I'm not a sloppy drunk, per se, and I am a happy drunk - I don't get violent or abusive. I simply don't want to stop once I start. It became far too easy to polish off a bottle of red wine nearly every day. Terrible for my health, bad hangovers, etc.

I missed too many days doing other things while feeling crappy from the night before. Enough was enough. I had to control it before it was too late.
 
Saving up my spare change for one of these: Arizer Air Portable Diffuser

I already have the non-portable version hidden behind an old air filter box at the back of my shed, but I'd like to be able to have something in my pocket so I can sneak off to the bathroom at parties full of drunk people, and return with that nice, happy glow that does my soul so much good.

By the way; any of you ex-pot-smokers who find modern pot too strong and don't like getting way too baked - try a vapourizer! So clean, so tasty, and you can easily regulate the device to get exactly the buzz you want. You'll be the only one who knows you are medicated.

I actually hate the taste of combusted weed now, vaporizing is a much more mellow buzz, I like it a lot.

I have no experience with the piece of equipment you have linked but when I go to the local shop I will ask the pros and get back to you. What I can recommend is what I have been using for the past couple of years and works really well for flowers is the magic flight launch box: Original Maple Launch Box Kit - Magic-Flight You can find various reviews of it online. What I like is it's simplicity, so no failed smd components on a tiny pcb that I can't work on........not to mention it's a beautiful piece of art that is functional. It works great at parties, I even vape in public bathrooms or restrooms at restaurants, even in the middle of the movie theater without any issues, nobody smells a thing lol.
 
Alcohol just never agreed with me.
I usually get the hangover whilst I'm still drinking and if I get just a tiny bit above my very low tolerance level I will spent a number of hours puking up my guts.

Never enjoyed the company of drunk people either.

Same situation is here by me !

BTW , Alcohol and Weed are two totally different worlds , alcohol is very destructive for human body & soul , I have seen bunch of destroyed persons and destroyed families caused from alcohol abusing , anyway man need to be very careful even with weed consumption ...it is not just for anyone, anytime and anywhere .

Regards !
 
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I have no experience with the piece of equipment you have linked but when I go to the local shop I will ask the pros and get back to you. What I can recommend is what I have been using for the past couple of years and works really well for flowers is the magic flight launch box: Original Maple Launch Box Kit - Magic-Flight You can find various reviews of it online. What I like is it's simplicity, so no failed smd components on a tiny pcb that I can't work on........not to mention it's a beautiful piece of art that is functional. It works great at parties, I even vape in public bathrooms or restrooms at restaurants, even in the middle of the movie theater without any issues, nobody smells a thing lol.

Thanks for the heads-up on that. I'm looking at various products. The Pax 2 is also in the running. A review of the Launch Box indicates that it will combust the weed if you aren't careful. Arizer Air is in the lead right now simply because it is made in Canada, so it'll end up being fairly affordable.
 
This is particularly absurd when you consider the science of both.

Alcohol is, quite literally, a poison. It functions by preventing the uptake of oxygen in the bloodstream. The "impairment" is caused by lack of oxygen in the brain.

Marijuana, on the other hand, is comprised of delta-9 tetra-hydra-cannibinol (THC) and many other cannabinoids such as CBD. Many of us already know this. What is truly remarkable, however, is that the human body and brain contains more cannabinoid chemo-receptors than any other type of chemo-receptor. A chemo-receptor is like a "lock" into which a specific type of "key" fits which instigates a bio-chemical reaction. Each type of chemo-receptor has only one purpose - only one key fits in the lock. The cannabinoid chemo-receptors and associated biochemical components are referred to as our "endocannabinoid system". Our bodies and brains are full of these little locks, and the vast majority of them serve one single purpose; to reap the massive benefits of cannabinoids. The terminal dose of cannabis is 15 pounds, smoked in 15 minutes - cause of death is smoke inhalation. There are zero documented cases.

It seems sad, in an odd sort of way, that many people go their entire lives without utilizing the vast majority of chemo-receptors in their bodies and brains (while they willingly poison themselves with alcohol).

So, the alcohol vs. pot debate is quite laughable when subjected to objective, scientific scrutiny.

The only other arguments against pot are moral ones, and those arguments can apply equally against any drug (or poison) including and especially alcohol.

The moral arguments are mostly invalid, of course. Particularly with pot. If one comes to understand the extremely complex and deep biological relationship between our endocannabinoid system and the marijuana plant, one might even come to the conclusion that it was by design.


No , alcohol does not cause asphyxiation !!! I agree its bad , and
does the opposite of hallucinogenics (lsd) - LINK -A-N-D
- Inhibiting "useful " neurotransmitter balances.

Weed actually does the same thing and fills in where your body already
has a natural cannaboid (anandamide) to do the job.
You become "simple minded" (one track) , and overaccess one part of
something.
You might dwell on one aspect of a design or project excessively. Or ,
one sound or set of sounds.

LSD/ peyote - mescaline is a different story. Some minds can form
marvelous new interconnections and see the "whole picture" like never
before.
Sound , designs , the world in general - everything becomes quite apparent.

PS - legally did peyote as a guest of indigenous Americans. 44 further LSD
experiences did not do any damage - in fact .... in a tight situation ,
I come up with the "smoothest" solution.

Also , at least the weed does not destroy a mind like booze - it just
"clogs" it up temporarily (like opiods ) . Lesser of the two evils.

Edit - Inhalants (poppers - whatever) destroy by asphyxiation for
a cheap very temporary high.
OS
 
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Whoa! Very cool. That young lady can really play.

Saw ELP in Jacksonville around 74 or 75.

I bypassed the whole "Disco" thing.

I got out of the NAVY in 1975, went back to Tech School for a year and switched to a four year degree at Clemson Univ.

Due to my age I ended up associating with the Graduate Students instead of the undergrads.

Chemistry PHDs were some interesting people to say the least. It is amazing what they could synthesize from safflower oil.

In addition, I learned how to convert isomers of THC to the psychoactive version and had access to lab equipment.

Not something I would undertake today.

The biggest club in Clemson was a the Disco on 93 just a 1/4 mile from my apartment. I never went there even once the entire time I was in school.

Disco was for the undergrads.
 
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