I didn't speculate, I used the snr graphs found on the ds carts manufacturer site and they are about 35...50 db wrong about the electrical carts snr and around 70db of snr for their own...
I just answered them as I knew he was responding to me...& yes I did wonder if there was a mistake....but it didn't fully register with me!
A couple of months ago, Eelco wrote on the Grimm Audio blog about an experiment done by another group of interested people, that might be of interest.
They routed the same microphone sum parallel to a direct cut lathe and their studio A/D-converter and storage (Protools) and did some listening afterward. I think Eelco's remarks are partly a bit misleading but surely that holds true for the original description as well. Quite an effort and an interesting comparison anyway.
Eelco's comments
https://www.grimmaudio.com/blogs/vinyl-versus-digital/
and the original description
https://alpha-audio.net/background/digital-versus-analogue-a-true-and-fair-comparison/
They routed the same microphone sum parallel to a direct cut lathe and their studio A/D-converter and storage (Protools) and did some listening afterward. I think Eelco's remarks are partly a bit misleading but surely that holds true for the original description as well. Quite an effort and an interesting comparison anyway.
Eelco's comments
https://www.grimmaudio.com/blogs/vinyl-versus-digital/
and the original description
https://alpha-audio.net/background/digital-versus-analogue-a-true-and-fair-comparison/
Just reiterating many of the things I have been saying. But also inferring that the vinyl could have more info/headroom than the 24bit at 96kHz that the digital file had that was taken at the same time.
Their mentioning the process of producing vinyl is something I wish more knew about, as each stage is more "reduction" in the chain especially if recorded onto normal analogue studio master tapes & not "direct to discs".
Digital downloads as 24bit 96kHz FLAC of the studio master analogue tapes is good....if the music is originally recorded digitally, then its just a straight digital copy.
Eelco: " In my experience it costs more money to make digital playback sound pleasing to the ear than analog playback. So with budget systems, the vinyl option has an advantage."...
I fundamentally disagree. A turntable is an electro-mechanical system. It is very expensive to make a good bearing, a well designed cartridge, a preamp that can handle very low levels, a cable that provides a good match, then you go the manufacturing of the stylus, cantilever, cartridge assembly, and to boot, high recurring expenses due to low volumes.
OTOH, a good digital playback system, specially one based on studio equipment is cheaper to make, due to volume production. Besides, with SMD and digital design tools, manufacturing is cheap as well.
