I visited Beddgelert (Gelert's Grave) many years ago - a lovely village - spent a lot of the time in the pub though!
The Welsh Highland railway runs through Aberglaslyn pass again now between Porthmadog and Caernarfon
Sounds like 25 miles of bliss! I've been on the Ffestiniog of course. Think it was 50p a pint at the time!
...... i would let chickens in (cows too if I had a big enough space and rooms where things wouldn't get trashed - just practical considerations).
Practical consideration: Hygiene.
It's much more than just in our heads. The differences mentioned in above examples are very tangible and clear.We all treat everything differently that we catagorise as different in our heads. How we internally catagorise is a matter of complex nurture and can be very individual.
Rhetorical question, equating animals with human would be self-made illusion too, no?Most people treat humans around them differently from each other, as individuals. We'll even catagorise them into personality types and treat each type in certain different ways.
Very easily people can switch to catagorise a bunch of humans, based on nothing but an implanted idea, as "them" and treat them very differently from other humans. Sometimes it goes as far as catagorising them as non-human and unworthy of life itself.
It is not a fixed moral position, how we treat other living creatures, not something based on the "truths" of an external world (external to the human mind).
How we relate and treat other creatures is all internally based. It is essentially abstract and arbitrary and a self-made illusion.
I see that all over human society. Another rhetorical question, does that exist in animal kingdom?A problem with human perception is that many see their normalised worlds as "the truth", even worse a "moral truth". The ego then tries to impart this to others,
For specific reason but it's not the same reason as letting in chickens and or cows.Plenty of humans I wouldn't let in my house
I'm all for practicality. 🙂whilst i would let chickens in (cows too if I had a big enough space and rooms where things wouldn't get trashed - just practical considerations).
I've heard about certain settlements in Viking era that the climate (cooling) force the livestock and humans to share the same shelter. That eventually led to diseases to develop and spread which wiped out the settlement. 😱Practical consideration: Hygiene.
I think I remember reading of that too. The Greenland settlement.
If i had chickens, they would have their own (Hen) house. I may do it when I retire.
If i had chickens, they would have their own (Hen) house. I may do it when I retire.
As to the ethics of eating meat is cannibalism ever ok?
Only if they run off with your wife !
Is there something you want to tell us Nigel?
Was glad to see the back of her to be honest.
I offered to take him for a pint to thank him but he didn't want to know !
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That reminds me of the (very) old joke - "My wife ran off with my best friend! Oh! How I miss him . . ."Only if they run off with your wife !
A little like this classic Simpsons episode, except true love reigns in the end..........The Good, the Sad and the Drugly - Wikipedia
Yes that's a good episode, 1995 wow, I wonder what it would have been like had it been made today in the age of the Instagram vegan?
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