Actually I hope the provinces stick to the alcohol ban. Teach someone that flappin your gums can have serious consequences. I'm sure Canadian booze is just as good as US. Add a hint of maple flavor and better than US booze.
Thread seems to be degenerating into venting about politics, which is zero percent interesting, but was probably the point all along. Silly of me to assume it was actually a discussion and to waste my time on it.
Carry on.
Carry on.
"The Art of the Deal" - We all know how he thinks and acts, cause he told us in his book. 🙂
Regardless of anything, this book is really good!
But he didn't actually write it.
The Art of the Con would have been more appropriate.
The Art of the Con would have been more appropriate.
You actually thought there would be any substance to it?
Good one. 👍
jeff
I'm thinking that's the tariff on products of Chinese origin. That was put in place under Trump 1.0. I believe Trump 2.0 is planning to go ahead with an additional 10% tariff (so to increase the tariff to 30% from 20%) starting tomorrow.
Check the paperwork. It should say COO: CN (Country of Origin: China) on the packing list from Mouser.
At least the plans for tariffs on Canadian and Mexican goods were postponed by 30 days.
My plan is to make it easier for Europeans to purchase my products. I'll find a way to collect the European sales tax up front so I can ship with taxes and duties paid. That way there are no surprise bills (and none of the outrageous billing fees) when the goods arrive. Some countries charge nearly $30 just to send you a bill for the sales tax. That's outrageous.
It would be nice if European sales picked up if sales to the US take a dive because of a tariff.
Tom
I am going to check it. There has always been some tariff tax when I purchased from Mouser. I just don't remember it being quite so egregious. But, there was a lot of "iron" in this order. Four doughnuts from Triad and a choke and transformer from Hammond.
Dan
Dan
Naw, lawyers are sidelined. Nothing they can do.
Wife used to deal with supply chains worldwide. The minimum is where it will impact trade. Not so much the cost, but the logistics. Likely the vendors will start shipping through a US warehouse and the tariffs will be collected when the containers hit the port.
Shipping direct to the customer from China was a way to get around the tariffs. The Chinese were playing the game. I think they're the real target of the tariffs. But the mainstream media is stuck over Mexico and Canada.
As far as other stuff, there have always been tariffs. Over the years I've bought new audio amps directly from the factory in the EU and I had to pay the import duty.
BTW- it looks like the Canadian tariffs are on hold for a month. It makes sense, NA is too tightly coupled and likely the point of this was not economic but political. China, is a different story. Get ready to pay more for Chinese goods.
Man, this morning, with all the hysteria coming out on the "news" was the perfect time to buy on the dip.
Hmmm... Burson ships from Hong Kong. I wonder if they will start transshipping through Oz.
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I thought you guys had a prime minister, not a president.
Honestly, you should not post such, it is political.
In wonder where the mods are?
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In addition, to Mouser's credit, they were all upfront as to the tariff tax. It plainly showed as I added items and in the final cart before check out. All along, I could have backed out and purchased the iron elsewhere.
Dan
Dan
As I recall, EU taxes are much higher than anything in NA, including 10% tariffs.
The VAT is a killer. Unashamed money grubbing tax.
The Canadian Parliament wants to impose a 10% charge on their own exports?
That is nuts. Shoot themselves on the foot? I wonder what the people in Alberta and Saskatchewan think about this...
This is soooo political.
Sadly, it's to be expected.
Some people simply don't have the cognitive ability to remain objective on a given topic.
You completely missed the point. Most Europeans understand that taxes pay for their social services. While they might not enjoy having to pay the tax, they generally don't grumble too much about it.
What they do grumble about is the significant billing fees from collecting the tax. Sometimes the fee is higher than the tax being collected. That they do grumble about. And I can understand that. I'd be upset about having to pay a $30 billing fee on a $25 tax bill.
I can't change the EU sales tax rates. That's for Europeans to address with their governments. But I can help them out by collecting the tax up front as that eliminates the billing fee.
The EU and Canada has a trade agreement, so there are no tariffs there. I'm not sure where you get that from.
Tom
^ I did not miss the point. I'm writing about paying taxes. When we were in Spain we racked up almost 2000 bucks on VAT... we kept track of it and got it all back. But the paperwork at the airport took almost an hour to fill. Hint, in the EU use the same credit card to pay for things.. then it becomes easier to process the refunds.
But, they also pay very heavy taxes on everything, wages, utilities... they pay tax on tax... so I'm not quite sure they don't overpay for their "social services".
My family over there are petit bourgeois so they make their money on product and sales ( like you ) not on wages. So they get taken out to the cleaners. Even my retired MD cousins, who actually did work for wages for a hospital, don't get much in their retirement and their other social benefits. They live well enough only on account of their life savings.
We went to a High End audio shop while there. They had nice stuff, mostly small speakers and so as, as the guy told me, "bigger things just won't fit in our apartments".. But the prices, before VAT, were huge... so their cost of distribution, sales and marketing is astronomical when compared with the High End in the US.
How about your Canadian taxes?
But, they also pay very heavy taxes on everything, wages, utilities... they pay tax on tax... so I'm not quite sure they don't overpay for their "social services".
My family over there are petit bourgeois so they make their money on product and sales ( like you ) not on wages. So they get taken out to the cleaners. Even my retired MD cousins, who actually did work for wages for a hospital, don't get much in their retirement and their other social benefits. They live well enough only on account of their life savings.
We went to a High End audio shop while there. They had nice stuff, mostly small speakers and so as, as the guy told me, "bigger things just won't fit in our apartments".. But the prices, before VAT, were huge... so their cost of distribution, sales and marketing is astronomical when compared with the High End in the US.
How about your Canadian taxes?
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To avoid most taxes: Buying local is hard in this hobby, but 'back in the day' didn't a lot of hobbyists build stuff from parts removed what they could scrounge from garage sales and trash finds. I don't think everyone had the luxury of buying new parts to order. There was a certain satisfaction and inventiveness back then. Some projects on this forum have turned into the kind of project people do 'at work' rather than in a hobby and something gets lost with that.
If there are no friendly countries nearby, China is more than happy to fill the gap, with low costs, and a stable environment.
If there are no friendly countries nearby, China is more than happy to fill the gap, with low costs, and a stable environment.
Ah. So you changed the topic so you could get on your soap box with an anti-tax rant. Sorry buddy. I'm not biting.
This thread is about how the impending trade war will impact us in Canada and the US.
Tom
I paid $5 of two $17 trafos from Mouser. Yeah, it is going to make things costlier to build. But you will still be far ahead of outrageous audiophile prices.
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