Just how many transitional fossils does one require to "connect the dots" from one distinct species, to another? Dozens, hundreds, thousands? Consider the relative rarity of the species of specific living organisms, for instance, proto humans were not that prevalent for an easy breadcrumb trail, other more prolific creatures have left lots & lots of evidence.
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For every transitional fossil you find, you have to find two more to "connect the dots." Ad infinitum.
That's how Creationist Bingo is played. 😉 You can never win.
That's how Creationist Bingo is played. 😉 You can never win.
No, as I mentioned already, once the "proof" is presented, belief is no longer required. Millions upon millions of complete fossils in good condition have been uncovered, yet no transitional sequence for anything, but the search continues, however not for proof. They've given up on that with a ridiculous excuse. They have no choice but to simply believe. The fossil record is intact. Sedimentary layers are readily identifiable. The history is with us. Where are they? Parallel similarity to the op is uncanny.
Creationism is way more far reaching than the likes of mere evolution. Evolution does not in any way refute it. It could easily align with it. Except maybe in the minds of the kooks. It is so far simply an unanswered question. There is no legitimate controversy since there is no information to argue over.
Might I suggest a review of chapter 5 of SJ Gould's ' Full House'?
And a return to the topic of UFOs?
And a return to the topic of UFOs?
Actually, evolution can be observed almost in real time these days. Some species can be manipulated to evolve so fast (comparatively) that its like evolution happening before your eyes.
Jan
Frankly I can't be arsed.
The evidence for Evolution (the most tested of all Theories) is so overwhelming that one has to be wilfully ignorant to deny it.
The only surprising thing about transitional fossils is that there are so many of them. Indeed technically every single fossil is a 'transitional' one since evolution does not stand still...ever.
There's multiple points of evidence for evolution. To pretend that its veracity depends only on fossil evidence is profoundly dishonest.
It's important to note that in the US there is an enormous, very well funded lobby that actively promotes a vociferous anti-science agenda in Washington, in the press, on school boards, and on social media. The most well funded and best organized anti-science lobby is the Discovery Institute for Science and Culture. They employ PhD quacks whose sole purpose is to lend credibility to the bald faced lies these charlatans promote.
And they're winning. Stupid Americans buy into that bilge hook, line, and sinker.
It's important to note that in the US there is an enormous, very well funded lobby that actively promotes a vociferous anti-science agenda in Washington, in the press, on school boards, and on social media. The most well funded and best organized anti-science lobby is the Discovery Institute for Science and Culture. They employ PhD quacks whose sole purpose is to lend credibility to the bald faced lies these charlatans promote.
And they're winning. Stupid Americans buy into that bilge hook, line, and sinker.
And there should have been a new thread started for this topic. There's enough stupid in this thread already.
How convenient. Again, line em up and I’ll “believe” as you do. Otherwise, strengthen your faith.🙂
UFO’s and Evolution. Now there’s a topic we could get into.
I made the comment a few weeks back on one of these UFO threads that the end destination of evolution is not intelligence - the observation of which came out of the podcast I listen to (‘The Common Descent’) on paleontology, biology, evolution etc. Sandberg, separately, makes the case that if producing intelligence was the primary outcome of evolution, it should have happened much earlier over the last 550 million years, but it did not. From what we know, evolution seeks to fill all available niches - or conversely, organisms seek niches in which they can maximize their chances of survival, generalist species like ourselves notwithstanding, where due to a term they call ‘plasticity’, we are able to exploit just about anything that gets thrown at us. Intelligence it seems arose purely by accident and the guys on the podcast made the point that in the 550 million years since the first fish crawled out of the sea, on only 8 occasions has a highly intelligent animal arisen and it’s all happened in the last 1 million yrs. By intelligent, we are talking about animals that have language, tool making, organized into complex social structures, able to pass on knowledge and, most importantly, have a very high degree of agency so they are able to shape their environments and their futures somewhat. All of these animals are/were hominids.
Which leads to an interesting question. What would the evolutionary journey of an advanced alien race look like? Would they start off as arboreal dwelling animals like us? What would trigger brain size increases (maybe they don’t have a brain like us but some different cognitive mechanism?) and the rise of intelligence, how would they organize socially etc.
I made the comment a few weeks back on one of these UFO threads that the end destination of evolution is not intelligence - the observation of which came out of the podcast I listen to (‘The Common Descent’) on paleontology, biology, evolution etc. Sandberg, separately, makes the case that if producing intelligence was the primary outcome of evolution, it should have happened much earlier over the last 550 million years, but it did not. From what we know, evolution seeks to fill all available niches - or conversely, organisms seek niches in which they can maximize their chances of survival, generalist species like ourselves notwithstanding, where due to a term they call ‘plasticity’, we are able to exploit just about anything that gets thrown at us. Intelligence it seems arose purely by accident and the guys on the podcast made the point that in the 550 million years since the first fish crawled out of the sea, on only 8 occasions has a highly intelligent animal arisen and it’s all happened in the last 1 million yrs. By intelligent, we are talking about animals that have language, tool making, organized into complex social structures, able to pass on knowledge and, most importantly, have a very high degree of agency so they are able to shape their environments and their futures somewhat. All of these animals are/were hominids.
Which leads to an interesting question. What would the evolutionary journey of an advanced alien race look like? Would they start off as arboreal dwelling animals like us? What would trigger brain size increases (maybe they don’t have a brain like us but some different cognitive mechanism?) and the rise of intelligence, how would they organize socially etc.
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Evolution doesn't even have outcomes, in the sense of any defined goal. It's a random process, that throws all sorts of things up from time to time. The most successful results of evolution should probably be considered to the most long lived - so that would be some bacteria, some plants and a few fauna.... That were here before us and will still be here after all trace of humans has probably gone!
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