UFO's- Please help me process

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And I´m zero interested in convincing a zealot.
Your time on these threads unequivocally says otherwise

The main point remains that´s being claimed (that´s the point of these 2 interlinked threads) is that Alien crafts, presumably guided by an Intelligence (either Alien pilots or Alien remote control) are visiting us, have some purpose, are swarming US Military or Nuclear power plants (thus triggering Military interest), etc. and "sightings" (always fuzzy, always by "somebody else") are claimed as circumstantial evidence.

Read my lips: that-is-not-evidence-of-any-kind

Not even circumstantial, because there is nothing solid to show, not a single bit.
You ought to consult a dictionary before you post

As of "the question" to be answered is not some unrelated trolling one, trying to kick the ball out of the field, but the basic one:

Are Alien ships, commanded by Alien Intelligence visiting Earth?
You have your own answer to that, it has been duly noted and is of zero value to anyone who wants to research the UFO topic.

3 or 4 trolls, always the same, are trying to keep this thread alive, but offer no new ideas and go back to the same old worn ones time and time again.
What else?
Congratulations on going full “everyone who disagrees with me is a troll.” If you wanted even a chance at moderating the topic, you should have done more research. Nature abhors a vacuum.
 
if a 350 meter wide craft appeared some dozens of kilometers away on a sunny & bright day, a speck at first, descended & floated silently above an occupied football pitch at a slow speed & hovered thirty meters above an adjacent parking lot for "everybody" to see...I would be the first to approach the three who came 'slithering' out of the craft & would welcome them...
up & until that happens...
Ha! That’s rather trusting isn’t it?

I mean, you wouldn’t be the first to approach 3 dudes ‘slithering’ out of a low rider in LA

In my case I am happy for you to go first. Don’t worry though, I will be behind you (waaaaay behind you!)
 

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About “poisoning the well” by mischaracterizing claims about UFOs as claims about aliens or “moving the goalposts” so that circumstantial evidence and testimony don’t qualify as evidence (they do, just not hard, physical evidence) therefore you can claim “there is no evidence” even when the opposite is true?
 
Huh?

I believe when shown scientific evidence. You're entitled to think otherwise. But if you want to convince me, and you want to convince a group of engineers, then SHOW US THE SCIENCE.

I don't jump to any conclusions. I saw a hornet in my garden that I'd never seen before. I could have surmised that a new species evolved, or that aliens brought it, etc. Or, I could use science to figure it out. So I showed the hornet to my neighbor, who showed it to his wife, who brought it to the Northwestern University department of biology, who identified it as a hornet whose range was moving northward due to climate change.

Mystery solved, by SCIENCE. That's how you would convince a group of engineers. Not with circumstantial evidence, etc.
 
Lol, you take it so seriously. No really, “science” looks great in all-caps. It doesn’t at all remind me of when a religious person puts their G-, J- and A- words in all-caps. Not at all.

Verified by actual academics.
Crazy, it’s like you’re suggesting that UFOs ought to be studied to maybe establish a body of knowledge to help people who have a first-hand experience with one.
 
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That's easy.

When people claim they saw a flying saucer, or UFO, or whatever lights etc. I do not believe their claims. I do not think they're lying or dishonest, only possibly mistaken. They could be right or they could be wrong, but without some kind of scientific confirmation, I do not buy into their claims.

What more do you want? I have standards for evidence. They're not met. So I neither believe nor disbelieve.

Why is it so important to you that I believe?
 
Why is it so hard to say “I never really looked into the subject so I have no idea what sort of evidence there may be, I’m just inclined to doubt there’s anything to it because if there was the scientific community would have validated it already”?

Repeating that there “is no evidence” is not only perpetuating falsehoods, it’s implying that you’ve actually looked into the matter when you really haven’t. It’s also denigrating the work of scientists who have looked into the subject and concluded the opposite of you.
 
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I actually have looked into it. I looked at stuff here and I looked up other stuff on my own.

Of course I've been aware of the evidence. It's part of pop culture.

"I’m just inclined to doubt there’s anything to it because if there was the scientific community would have validated it already”

Why would you think otherwise? I point out again and again that it's science that convinces me.
 
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