If it wasn't for that catastrophic event 65 million years ago on earth, we may have reached the space faring technology 1 million years sooner. Then we could have been the news of unidentified flying objects on other planets that we seeded. Just thinking out loud...
A few points:
1) this is one of the most widely distributed debunking videos in the UFO community right now (it is the second or third time it has been linked to in this thread). Plenty “believers” have seen these videos which have been going around for months now.
2) as a “believer” I find mick west’s work valuable; I follow him on Twitter and we have polite interactions. The “believers” are not some monolithic entity.
3) yes, you are wrong in assuming these videos originate as some sort of record of UFO flight. These videos did originate from within the US military and their authenticity has been made official, however, the officials would not speak to what was being presented in those clips. So what to make of it? Probably some military disinfo being fed to a press (via unscrupulous networks within ufo community) who have long since forgotten how to do investigative work.
In short, these videos have the same stink as everything else attached to TTSA. This has been the sentiment for a large segment of “believers” who’ve followed this topic for a long while.
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The debunk vid seems to concentrate on the speed of the object. One piece of information we don't have is the heat signature of the object. If it were some mere drone or some conventional flying object, there would have been obvious sign of flying surface such as wings, or some type of propulsion from the infrared data. Neither can be seen.
The actual clip is like 10min. long but the release version is only about 1min. long. Nobody knows the whole story. The debunk website made some speculations that not sure are true.
I don't think the debunk website has all the fact and their findings can not be conclusive.
The actual clip is like 10min. long but the release version is only about 1min. long. Nobody knows the whole story. The debunk website made some speculations that not sure are true.
I don't think the debunk website has all the fact and their findings can not be conclusive.
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that’s hardly surprising, when you start with a fuzzy image with questionable provenance then you are starting any ‘debunking’ with already suspect data and building on top of that.
Nevertheless it is at least an attempt to bring rational thinking and science to a bunch of wooly claims
Nevertheless it is at least an attempt to bring rational thinking and science to a bunch of wooly claims
There are missing links for fish to mammal found? 😱 And what other multicellular missing links?
I'll answer your question, with a better question. Are you suggesting that there weren't transitional life forms? That complex forms appeared all at once, fully complete, with no lower form foundation?
There have been observations of micro evolution but not macro evolution. In other words, the missing link of major changes have not been found.
If it wasn't for that catastrophic event 65 million years ago on earth, we may have reached the space faring technology 1 million years sooner. Then we could have been the news of unidentified flying objects on other planets that we seeded. Just thinking out loud...
Perhaps the dinosaurs would have continued ruling the Earth. They had already been around 160 million years and not evolved into anything like an advanced intelligent species so I question we would be a million years ahead of where we are now.
This is exactly the kind of thing that points to how rare advanced civilizations are. Throughout the earths history there have been many cataclysms - we are just lucky life squeezed through and here we are. During the first 3 billion there were lots of crises that nearly wiped out life - acidic oceans, GRB’s, oxygen crises ( in our favor but wiped out the Cyanobacteria), asteroid impacts etc.
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It was not at all steady. When multicellular life came about we had what is called the 'Cambrian Explosion' during which multicellular life evolved into many different shapes very rapidly. The vast majority of which equally rapidly disappeared again.
I wouldn't call it readily either considering the previous >3.2billion years of relative stagnation.
If it wasn't for that catastrophic event 65 million years ago on earth, we may have reached the space faring technology 1 million years sooner. Then we could have been the news of unidentified flying objects on other planets that we seeded. Just thinking out loud...
That catastrophic event did not just kill the dinosaurs. It killed practically ever life form over 25kg in body weight including early mammals.
The only larger ones that did survive on land (more or less) were ones which could do without food for extended periods of time so basically crocodiles and turtles/tortoises.
All larger forms of life can be traced back to the Cambrian Explosion including mammals. Had it not been for the catastrophe mammals probably would have never got the chance to dominate global life as they do now and would still be limited to tiny shrew-like creatures as they were during the age of the dinosaurs.
So called 'missing links' are largely a red herring.
But there are a number of creatures which have traits from different groups that live right now.
The duck-billed platypus is an egg-laying mammal with reptilian traits.
Lungfish and mudskippers are fish with amphibious traits. Swim bladders of modern bony fish evolved from primitive lungs.
The Portuguese Man'o'war 'jellyfish' could be considered somewhere between single cell and multicell organisms.
There is even one that straddles plants and animals. It starts of as an animal eating other single cell organisms until it comes across blue-green algae which it swallows but not digests. Ones it has those within it's body it behaves like other green algae plants and seeks sunlight instead of active hunting.
Here’s an interesting YouTube video that discusses the early biological history of the Earth. There are others but I haven’t gotten around to them yet.
A Brief History of Life on Earth: The Full Series - YouTube
A Brief History of Life on Earth: The Full Series - YouTube
So where is proof in the fossil record we're not aliens from another planet? Why is the fossil record so incomplete when it comes to establishing long term evolution. Where are all the fossils? I mean the transitionary ones.
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if we came here as aliens, how did that happen, why did none of the technology required show up back then ?
There is a good argument to be made that single cell bacteria that dominated life for 2.1 billion yrs of the Earths existence were the most successful life form ever. The dinosaurs lasted less than 10% of their tenure.
Point taken. Steadily, was not the best word choice on my part. I had only intended to indicate increasing complexity moves forward over lengths of time, not that it was smoothly increasing.
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If we did, (and I don't believe it), it stands to reason we would have had the insight to anticipate this very controversy and make sure we left no trace so it appears we are indigenous. That way we'd have no indifference to the planet and be inclined to take care of it. However that notion may well prove untenable. Why we'd have no history/recollection of the event could be because the 1st gens were sworn to secrecy. You know, like the moon landing astronauts are keeping silent about the truth.
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