Bonsai, have you changed your belief on the existence of intelligent beings other than earthlings?
Even that gives pause 😀
Edit: I think by definition a gorilla is a earthling too ( correct me if I’m wrong)
Edit: I think by definition a gorilla is a earthling too ( correct me if I’m wrong)
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Ok now.....
The talk about aliens and how intelligent they are seems up for discussion and debate.
Now think about this....
That orb that I saw in 1968, with incredible speed and the ability to hover like it was frozen in the air..... AND not create a breeze or wind disturbance of the trees and bushes nearby when it shot up into the air....
Did some dummy have the ability to create that?
If there are no aliens, where does these vehicles come from, and who manufactures them?
The talk about aliens and how intelligent they are seems up for discussion and debate.
Now think about this....
That orb that I saw in 1968, with incredible speed and the ability to hover like it was frozen in the air..... AND not create a breeze or wind disturbance of the trees and bushes nearby when it shot up into the air....
Did some dummy have the ability to create that?
If there are no aliens, where does these vehicles come from, and who manufactures them?
Oh there's a whole variety, at the liquor store.🙄
All shapes and sizes as you well know. 🙂
Lightning can come out if a clear blue sky if conditions are right. Usually at high altitude, where you would expect to see something flying. I suppose ball lighting could too. The last ball lightning I saw was caused INSIDE the house, induced by a direct strike in the back yard. It moved down the hall with the speed of a slow pitch softball, and took out the water heater. Static electricity can do a lot of weird things. Probably play tricks with your brain in you actually get hit by it. You’d think you’re having an Orb experience with Wormhole Aliens (the Prophets).
I've never experienced any ball lightning, I'm sure it's a bright, or rather, and "enlightning experience".
However, for anyone who hasn't bothered to read it, my post on "the other thread" explains my personal experience as best as I can remember.
US Naval pilots "We see UFO everyday for at least a couple of years"
However, for anyone who hasn't bothered to read it, my post on "the other thread" explains my personal experience as best as I can remember.
US Naval pilots "We see UFO everyday for at least a couple of years"
Then it was not a physical object travelling through the atmosphere. Period.
I don´t care about so called "UFOs" but I do care a lot about Atmosphere, and gases in general, who have been WELL studied for hundreds of years now.
No air disturbance at all? No sonic boom when travelling at supersonic speed?
Then they are as "solid" as a ghost.
So what you're saying is... this 8 foot diameter dark greyish globe, floating above my neighbor's roof, and emitting an erie high-pitched whine, for at least 20 minutes, was a figment of my 15 year old imagination?
You obviously weren't there with me in my bedroom in 1968 at 1AM, obviously, and understandably can only respond as others naturally would.
There's nothing wrong with being a "naysayer".
However, I can also appreciate your learned beliefs concerning gases and atmosphere.
But keeping an open mind, isn't the real things of our planet just ours alone?
Who knows what another universe's realities are?
I remember seeing a UFO when I was about 15. It was early morning and my father was taking my brother and I to hockey practice. And then I saw it, larger than a football field taking up almost my whole field of vision. I pointed at it and said OH MY GOD!!! And my brother and my father said "what?"
If it was there, their was no way they didn't see it. So I kept my mouth shut.
I now believe it was a figment of my imagination. I'm not sure what else to say. If it was there they would have seen it. And I saw it real as day. Weird. So who knows.....
If it was there, their was no way they didn't see it. So I kept my mouth shut.
I now believe it was a figment of my imagination. I'm not sure what else to say. If it was there they would have seen it. And I saw it real as day. Weird. So who knows.....
That would be covered by the "charged vacuum".🙄 Read about it here US10144532B2 - Craft using an inertial mass reduction device
- Google Patents
You can follow up on Pais (if you can stand it) some real garbage physics full of results that no one can duplicate, the patents read like one of those AI text generators. Since these patents were sponsored by the navy I don't see how they can disavow working on this stuff (I suspect it is all a fake out). I mean they describe a triangular craft that does exactly what you see in the videos. I suppose when "they" reveal themselves they will be greeted with a pile of infringement suits. I would think prior art would go to them.
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If there is something more preposterous than the notion of UFO objects, it's Mick West's supposed debunking of that notion. Like many debunking attempts, it proffers an 'explanation' which doesn't hold logical water with respect to all of the facts. It offers just enough to give those seeking a mundane explanation something to hang their hats on.
If there were only infrared videos, with no coincident Aegis radar tracking, and with no eyewitness reports by multiple Naval officers who recorded the videos, including a Wing Commander, then perhaps, Mick West's alternatives might be plausible. Seeing as there ARE radar and multiple Naval officer eyewitness reports, in addition to the videos, West's alternative theories seem preposterous.
You would have to believe in a massive pro UFO conspiracy, invloving a number of shipboard flight officers risking career-ending ridicule, as well as the highest levels of the Pentagon itself, in order to coordinate such widespread domestic disinformation campaign. For what purpose, so that everyone involved can die upon the hill in favor of the reality of UFOs?
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They're unable to identify the objects in question. Mick offers a plausible explanation for what they are.
People make fools of themselves all the time. No big deal....
People make fools of themselves all the time. No big deal....
That would be covered by the "charged vacuum".🙄 Read about it here US10144532B2 - Craft using an inertial mass reduction device
- Google Patents
You can follow up on Pais (if you can stand it) some real garbage physics full of results that no one can duplicate, the patents read like one of those AI text generators. Since these patents were sponsored by the navy I don't see how they can disavow working on this stuff (I suspect it is all fake out). I mean they describe a triangular craft that does exactly what you see in the videos. I suppose when "they" reveal themselves they will be greeted with a pile of infringement suits. I would think prior art would go to them.
I agree that the physics does not make sense. There is no underlying "there" there. From what I see he is mixing together several peripheral concepts, throwing them at the wall and hoping one of them sticks.
If you're interested in a serious approach then investigate my interview a long time ago with Tim Ventura. I mentioned it earlier but it seems most people never bother to read the links and keep bringing up the same objections over and over again. One of those objections is that if UFOs were real there would be clear pictures of them by now. The best observations include broadband sensors as well as multiple observers. I think the biggest clue is that there are intense magnetic fields that surround UFOs. This is often observed via indirect evidence on navigation equipment on aircraft, including compasses going ape s*it (a technical term)when a UFO is in close proximity. A magnetic fields strong enough to do that would also ionize oxygen, nitrogen, and CO2 and blur photos.
A photon is the only known fundamental particle without mass. A photon that splits into two when it passes through a partially silvered mirror will have each photon entangled with its twin. This entanglement isn't such a simple procedure if you do it with particles with mass and not photons. Technically, when a photon splits into two the two photons are being accelerated away from each other. It happens instantaneously but it still is acceleration.
Roger Penrose named the action of photons as "twisting" about a central axis that is always axial with the acceleration of a photon as it changes direction. He calls the assembly of ideas around that "twistor theory". This is different from particles with mass that can, and generally have their spins have an action like tires on an automobile when it is accelerating. Massive particles when they are accelerated, either in empty space or within a field existing within that space, will have a torque produced on the spin that will try to bring the spin "plane" parallel with the acceleration vector.
This is why there is inertia when particles with mass are accelerated. The magnitude of their angular momentum changes. The direction of that angular momentum will also change generally unless it is steady acceleration in one direction. This idea is tied in with Einstein's General Relativity. He didn't define space as comprised of anything but "space" but we know now that space is kinematic so that when you accelerate mass (or massive particles) you borrow energy from the vacuum". That's a big big subject but is essentially what happens while sparing all the details in how it happens.
So the question becomes this: If you could limit the direction of spin on massive particles so that you emulated a photon, or more precisely and conglomeration of photons, what would happen? Well first, there is no free lunch. A photon always creates a trail from where it is emitted that is entangled with the time and place that it was emitted from. Entanglement takes energy. The process of entanglement is the process of "dragging" or "skidding" a particle through the quantum vacuum without changing angular momentum and this creates a wormhole wherever that path leads. The photon doesn't change energy during acceleration so the quantum vacuum is molded to the constant energy of the photon. Presto: a wormhole.
You could emulate this behavior on a massive particle or object. What you would have to do create an intense magnetic field that is orthogonal to the direction of acceleration. It would have to be a magnetic field strong enough to polarize all the quarks within its constituent protons and neutrons. If you did it sufficiently the spin plane of all the particles in that mass would be purpendicular to the acceleration and you would not increase the angular momentum of the constituent particles in the vehicle. You could vary the acceleration by turning off the mass gradually by changing levels of the magnetic field.
Like I said, there is no free lunch. One would have varying levels entanglement events occurring between your home and destination that are created simply by traveling in this fashion over vast distances. Just like photons have.
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A naval Wing Commander?
Several military persons witnessed something. A UFO. How many are claiming it was an alien spacecraft?
No one has to coordinate "disinformation campaigns." Mackay wrote about crowd delusions 150 years ago, and writers are still publishing "sequels" to this day.
Several military persons witnessed something. A UFO. How many are claiming it was an alien spacecraft?
No one has to coordinate "disinformation campaigns." Mackay wrote about crowd delusions 150 years ago, and writers are still publishing "sequels" to this day.
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