Buffalo 32S Output
With my old Buffalo + Ivy there was SE and Balanced outputs from the Ivy ( +,G,-,SE,G). On the Buffalo 32S I only see (+,G,-).
Do you have to shoose SE or Balanced or can you run both out as you could with the old Ivy?
With my old Buffalo + Ivy there was SE and Balanced outputs from the Ivy ( +,G,-,SE,G). On the Buffalo 32S I only see (+,G,-).
Do you have to shoose SE or Balanced or can you run both out as you could with the old Ivy?
as far as I know you can use both like the original IVY. If you look in the buffalo topic, this questions has been adressed earlier.
It's pretty quiet in the buffalo related topics the last few days..... Silence before the storm hits when the first buffalo32s dacs are shipped next week? I am really counting down the days until I receive mine!
Scanspeakman
It's pretty quiet in the buffalo related topics the last few days..... Silence before the storm hits when the first buffalo32s dacs are shipped next week? I am really counting down the days until I receive mine!
Scanspeakman
Brian or Russ,
I know you have just released the Buffalo32 and are busy building up these boards to meet he demand for them BUT is there any news on the other type of Sabre32 board you were designing - the tweakers board?
I'm thinking that this would be a semi-built board & therefore easier to assemble!
Any news?
I know you have just released the Buffalo32 and are busy building up these boards to meet he demand for them BUT is there any news on the other type of Sabre32 board you were designing - the tweakers board?
I'm thinking that this would be a semi-built board & therefore easier to assemble!
Any news?
jkeny said:
I have actually been working on the "Tweakers" board this weekend. But with Brian moving and all it probably still a couple months out.
I think I may in the end do two of these type boards.
One will be very stripped down. No regulators or anything. Just bypass caps and the chip and headers and a spot for the clock (but that will also have a header).
This will give the hobbiest complete freedom.
Here is a rough sketch of the stripped version:
The other version would be the same as the Buffalo32S but with no comparator and all of the inputs exposed as headers and no output stage and the outputs exposed as headers.
Cheers!
Russ
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Russ White said:
That would be idea! I'd imagine that this would appeal to a lot of inmates here & would also be a lot quicker for you to produce!
The Buffalo32S has landed
Yes, I received the package yesterday. It contained the Buffalo32S board, standoffs, and the Thumpbuster kits.
Here is a thread on Twistedpear about Thumpbuster:
http://www.twistedpearaudio.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=635
The following is Brian's comment from that thread:
Firmware option for Buffalo32s added to the Volumite page.
We have two options for Buffalo32s single-ended output if turn-off thump is an issue in your setup:
First, a simple relay board called the ThumpBuster. This is a small relay board powered by the analog rails, much like the relay on the IVY, it simply shunts the output to ground at power off preventing any thumps. These will come free with the Buffalo32s. With it, you can simple use +OUT and GND and get performance nearly as good as the balanced outputs.
Second, we have a new, smaller, simpler kit version of the Ballsie called the Ballsie Lite coming out in a couple weeks (boards will be here next week, but I need to kit up the parts). It has a single LME49720 and optional simple filtering. The best way to use it would be to install it at the destination rather than the source, so you get the benefit of balanced transmission lines, but it would work in either location. I am going to try very hard to have them ready to ship before the Buff32s modules ship, but I am also in the process of packing up our house to move, so I cannot promise that will be the case.
Yes, I received the package yesterday. It contained the Buffalo32S board, standoffs, and the Thumpbuster kits.
Here is a thread on Twistedpear about Thumpbuster:
http://www.twistedpearaudio.com/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=635
The following is Brian's comment from that thread:
Firmware option for Buffalo32s added to the Volumite page.
We have two options for Buffalo32s single-ended output if turn-off thump is an issue in your setup:
First, a simple relay board called the ThumpBuster. This is a small relay board powered by the analog rails, much like the relay on the IVY, it simply shunts the output to ground at power off preventing any thumps. These will come free with the Buffalo32s. With it, you can simple use +OUT and GND and get performance nearly as good as the balanced outputs.
Second, we have a new, smaller, simpler kit version of the Ballsie called the Ballsie Lite coming out in a couple weeks (boards will be here next week, but I need to kit up the parts). It has a single LME49720 and optional simple filtering. The best way to use it would be to install it at the destination rather than the source, so you get the benefit of balanced transmission lines, but it would work in either location. I am going to try very hard to have them ready to ship before the Buff32s modules ship, but I am also in the process of packing up our house to move, so I cannot promise that will be the case.
Buffalo32S Manual
Hi Russ:
Are the new Buffalo32S version manual and schematics available?
Not hectoring, just wondering. I am sure you guys have been super busy.
I have two surplus dual linear power supplies (using LM723 metal cans ) that I will use. One will be +/- 15V and the other +VA and +VD. The two regulator boards are fed from separate windings.
A few questions please?
Q - Are there separate Analog and Digital grounds on Buffalo32S? ( I suppose I can just measure it. )
Q - Would you recommend tieing all the (-) terminals of the power supplies at the supply or just connect to the Buffalo? I was planning to do this on the +/- 15V supply, but what about the +VA and +VD supply?
Q - is VA still 6.6V nominal and VD 6.0V nominal?
Q - Also, these supplies have Sense terminals that are tied to the + and - outputs. I know these are for remote sensing and regulation, but is there any benefit of using these if the interconnects are only a few inches long?
Thanks.
Hi Russ:
Are the new Buffalo32S version manual and schematics available?
Not hectoring, just wondering. I am sure you guys have been super busy.
I have two surplus dual linear power supplies (using LM723 metal cans ) that I will use. One will be +/- 15V and the other +VA and +VD. The two regulator boards are fed from separate windings.
A few questions please?
Q - Are there separate Analog and Digital grounds on Buffalo32S? ( I suppose I can just measure it. )
Q - Would you recommend tieing all the (-) terminals of the power supplies at the supply or just connect to the Buffalo? I was planning to do this on the +/- 15V supply, but what about the +VA and +VD supply?
Q - is VA still 6.6V nominal and VD 6.0V nominal?
Q - Also, these supplies have Sense terminals that are tied to the + and - outputs. I know these are for remote sensing and regulation, but is there any benefit of using these if the interconnects are only a few inches long?
Thanks.
Re: Buffalo32S Manual
We will have the manual up soon. I have delivered it to Brian so that he can give it a once over before it is published.
The GND planes are separate but coupled with about 12 ohms at DC.
Your bipolar (+/-15V) analog supply should have three outputs - , G, and +. Simply wire it to the same terminals on both sides of the BUF32S.
As for VD 5V is ideal. But up to 7V should be fine.
Everything that needs to be joined is joined at the PCB.
I can't really comment on the sense lines, but for very short run they won't make much difference.
Cheers!
Russ
wackyterbacky said:
We will have the manual up soon. I have delivered it to Brian so that he can give it a once over before it is published.
The GND planes are separate but coupled with about 12 ohms at DC.
Your bipolar (+/-15V) analog supply should have three outputs - , G, and +. Simply wire it to the same terminals on both sides of the BUF32S.
As for VD 5V is ideal. But up to 7V should be fine.
Everything that needs to be joined is joined at the PCB.
I can't really comment on the sense lines, but for very short run they won't make much difference.
Cheers!
Russ
If you don't need to use the Thumpbuster can you still hook up SE using + & GND off the terminals on the Buffalo32?
HaLo6 said:
Sure, you don't "have to" use thumpbuster at all. The ESS demo board for example does not use output shunting relays.
It depends on your application. If your going directly out to a power amp I would definitely use it. Out to a preamp, you may not need it at all.
I would actually use it no matter what just to be safe, as it does no harm at all even if you don't need it. 🙂
FWIW the ESS demo board has much worse SE turn off thump (even after BAL/SE conversion) than the BUF32S.
The next board revision will have these relays built in. They just were not on the first run of boards because we were not sure if they would be useful.
Cheers!
Russ
Re: Buffalo32S Manual
Nice! In theory those regulators are 20dB lower noise than the LM317 if you bypass the reference with a capacitor (see data sheet). In practice, that may not matter...
wackyterbacky said:
Nice! In theory those regulators are 20dB lower noise than the LM317 if you bypass the reference with a capacitor (see data sheet). In practice, that may not matter...
It's Alive!
Well, it's not alive, but my Buffalo arrived today!
Looking forward to getting it put together.
Thanks Brian and Russ.
Larry
Well, it's not alive, but my Buffalo arrived today!
Looking forward to getting it put together.
Thanks Brian and Russ.
Larry
It's Alive! I'm not!
Brian and Russ:
Sorry, dumb question number 2 (first one was a few months ago). There is a manual for the "First Generation Buffalo (ES9008) Documents." Will there be a new manual for the 9018 DAC, or will 9008 DAC manual function as a direct replacement?
In advance, thanks again.
Larry
Brian and Russ:
Sorry, dumb question number 2 (first one was a few months ago). There is a manual for the "First Generation Buffalo (ES9008) Documents." Will there be a new manual for the 9018 DAC, or will 9008 DAC manual function as a direct replacement?
In advance, thanks again.
Larry
Re: It's Alive! I'm not!
Yes the manual will be up soon. No it is not the same as the Buffalo. The Buffalo32S is a quite a bit different.
I actually was not expecting people to have them this soon. 🙂
Cheers!
Russ
Muser said:
Yes the manual will be up soon. No it is not the same as the Buffalo. The Buffalo32S is a quite a bit different.
I actually was not expecting people to have them this soon. 🙂
Cheers!
Russ
Patience
Russ:
Funny thing is I'm on the west coast, so I'd not expect to be among the first or even ahead of your schedule. OK. I'll be patient. 😎
My inquiry was a useless bit of prophylactic work. My dad's helping put mine together with me and he tends to want one more piece of information than I have, no matter how much information I have.
So, I'm still one piece of information short, but that's how that had to be. 
Thanks for what has been an excellent customer service experience. Do you really have a day job?
Thanks,
Larry
Russ:
Funny thing is I'm on the west coast, so I'd not expect to be among the first or even ahead of your schedule. OK. I'll be patient. 😎
My inquiry was a useless bit of prophylactic work. My dad's helping put mine together with me and he tends to want one more piece of information than I have, no matter how much information I have.
So, I'm still one piece of information short, but that's how that had to be. Thanks for what has been an excellent customer service experience. Do you really have a day job?
Thanks,
Larry
Brian and Russ:
I just got my Buffalo32 up and running. Everything was packaged beautifully, making the Volumite, LCBPS and LCDPS assembly a snap.
Thanks for making such a product available to the DIY community.
Slarti
I just got my Buffalo32 up and running. Everything was packaged beautifully, making the Volumite, LCBPS and LCDPS assembly a snap.
Thanks for making such a product available to the DIY community.
Slarti
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