Planot a true innovation
The Planot does work; and not just a curiosity. The space, air, pleasure ratio is huge. I live local to the designer so I have been up to hear it more than once. In even early versions it had ambiance like no other I've heard. Been into this for 40 years and visited many audio salons and years at RMAF. The Planot may not be in production but it will do accurate reproduction in it's current frequency range like nothing I have ever heard.
The Planot does work; and not just a curiosity. The space, air, pleasure ratio is huge. I live local to the designer so I have been up to hear it more than once. In even early versions it had ambiance like no other I've heard. Been into this for 40 years and visited many audio salons and years at RMAF. The Planot may not be in production but it will do accurate reproduction in it's current frequency range like nothing I have ever heard.
Already there
I contend it is already among the best midrange and tweeter reproducers I've ever heard.
I contend it is already among the best midrange and tweeter reproducers I've ever heard.
I am all about crazy loudspeakers. Massless exotics, planars, infrasubwoofer rotaries -- whatever.
For me, the Planot never passed the initial sniff test.
Apparently no one has ever heard one and lived to tell about it (here, anyway).
The spirit of DIY forums is a bit violated by the "I'll sell you plans to build your own for $1000."
It doesn't LOOK like it would work. That would be cool if it does, but we have no evidence that it does.
Anyone?
For me, the Planot never passed the initial sniff test.
Apparently no one has ever heard one and lived to tell about it (here, anyway).
The spirit of DIY forums is a bit violated by the "I'll sell you plans to build your own for $1000."
It doesn't LOOK like it would work. That would be cool if it does, but we have no evidence that it does.
Anyone?
Well, you have the testimonial of a guy who no-one knows and just registered yesterday. 😀
yep.. must be anpther guy then the creator... welll i dont know i am open minded as well and tried so many ****. but that measurement does not tell anyhting . i dont even see a frequency response. let alone THD.
🙁 to bad
please post a measurement, i can imagine if you want this thing t sell or whatever maybe buy a simple mic and some software? i mean come on. patented..... its not patented. or you would have the money to buy a mic.
WTF , by the way as seen in the PDF of voice coil the coil does not even allow for pivoting. i really dont understand how this even could produce any sound.
Hi,
If its so great why has it got absolutely nowhere in
all these years ? FWIW I know the answer to that.
Accurate ? do me a favour. Different ? Yes.
rgds, sreten.
Might be the alleged operating principle is a joke.
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Offer...
I am talking with Indy Acoustic Research (IAR). They have agreeded to do a complete set of measurements on my prototype 4.5 (P4.5). They are charging me a reasonable, but currently unaffordable, fee for a complete suite of measurements in their newly refurbished anechoic chamber. They just obtained the chamber from Harmon. They are a group of former Harmon International employees. They are starting a new business and are opening soon. Their information can be found on their Web site. LinkedIn has information on their backgrounds.
If there is anyone here who is sure enough that my claims are not true then you can pay IAR to do the tests and prove me wrong. I am just saying you could man up and pay up or shut up.
John
I am talking with Indy Acoustic Research (IAR). They have agreeded to do a complete set of measurements on my prototype 4.5 (P4.5). They are charging me a reasonable, but currently unaffordable, fee for a complete suite of measurements in their newly refurbished anechoic chamber. They just obtained the chamber from Harmon. They are a group of former Harmon International employees. They are starting a new business and are opening soon. Their information can be found on their Web site. LinkedIn has information on their backgrounds.
If there is anyone here who is sure enough that my claims are not true then you can pay IAR to do the tests and prove me wrong. I am just saying you could man up and pay up or shut up.
John
That would be a good move, IMO. Be ready for what you get, one way or the other- falling in love with your own ideas is a great danger for independent inventors (as I know all too well).
Hi,
Like your usual nonsense your waffling about a test or demo
you are never going to do, why don't you man up or shut up.
"then you can pay IAR to do the tests and prove me wrong"
Just about sums up your attitude to the BS your peddling.
rgds, sreten.
Like your usual nonsense your waffling about a test or demo
you are never going to do, why don't you man up or shut up.
"then you can pay IAR to do the tests and prove me wrong"
Just about sums up your attitude to the BS your peddling.
rgds, sreten.
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Uhm!!! You can't be serious.....Gosh!!!
I don't think ANYONE is THAT curious.
^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS
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well you dont need a perfect measurement to proof something. just a mic of a whopping 100 dollar, and a free holmimpulse.. how hard can it be.
looks like you dont want to make a measurement. thats ok !, but then dont sell this crap for 1000 dollar and compare it with 70.000 dollar german system. ofc machining is expensive. but when people drop 1000 dollaar they got the right to have some information on how it performs
btw the guy that record ambiances i dont believe he ever listened. if he says crap like his stereo image came to live when listening to only one speakers..... wtf this is not POSIBLE, unless there are other phase isues or delays that make up his stereo image.
looks like you dont want to make a measurement. thats ok !, but then dont sell this crap for 1000 dollar and compare it with 70.000 dollar german system. ofc machining is expensive. but when people drop 1000 dollaar they got the right to have some information on how it performs
btw the guy that record ambiances i dont believe he ever listened. if he says crap like his stereo image came to live when listening to only one speakers..... wtf this is not POSIBLE, unless there are other phase isues or delays that make up his stereo image.
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If it's omnidirectional you don't need an anechoic room type of measurement.
There's no forward and back radiation
Oh well, there's the first reflections summing at the very first moments of caption
The stepped impulse response would then show ( according to the theory involved...)
how the triangular bell would start and stop ( suddendly ) when excited.
There's no forward and back radiation
Oh well, there's the first reflections summing at the very first moments of caption
The stepped impulse response would then show ( according to the theory involved...)
how the triangular bell would start and stop ( suddendly ) when excited.
It's not hard, but you have to understand what you're doing for the measurement to be meaningful; the posted measurement is ca-ca. If John doesn't understand the basics of measurement, it's best that he hand things over to someone who does. I think he's done a wise thing by subcontracting that, and hope that he takes the results seriously.
Come to a show, meeting or shoot out and let some of us listen to it. If it sounds good, then we have obviated the need for measurements.
Show or meeting...
I was invited to give a demo to the Chicago Audio Club. That date passed and I am still working on my new motors. As far as I know the offer is still open. I learned not to pre-announce a date until I was ready!
I was interested in the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest. I have attended it in the past. Now people are recommending the AXPONA as having better attendance and being cheaper. I have been invited by Mr. Soo to give a talk and demo at next year's California Audio Show.
I have had audiophiles over to listen and they either don't want to have their opinions aired publicly, I assume because they are afraid of being attacked by people for their opinion, or those audiophiles that have agreeded to have their opinions posted are ridiculed in forums like this. I have had one writer from a small online audio publication listen. He literally left, looking like a zombie. I never heard back from him again; no article. I have pointed out that there is a You Tube video of a personally built prototype by a highly regarded particle physicist, but that's not good enough to prove basic functionality?
Larry who worked for DEQX came out, on his own dime, for three days from Denver and did measurements. He left me the measurements. I have the raw data from REW and screen shots of those results displayed in the program. At the time I had a poorly functioning P4 and P3. P3 was not yet properly adjusted and its performance did suffer. Using the DEQX we were able to get the frequency response very flat. Later, after Larry left, I used the REW software he was using, (Larry taught me how to use the software) and the microphone and USB microphone preamp and a Radio Shack audio meter that Larry recommended. I fine tuned the magnetic homing and dampening device on P4 and produced the graph I published on my Web site.
I will do the live audio stream with Frank Van Alstine I will have to wait for my new prototypes to be finished. I will have to fit this into our schedules as well as two audiophiles' schedules, that I will invite to my home. I will be doing some short test video streams, using P3, that I will be airing weeks prior to main video stream event.
As I said before I will proceed at my own pace and no one else's. I make no apologies.
Bye. I will not respond to any more questions here, for now.
If you have questions send them to:
info@planotspeaker.com
I will get back with an announcement of the live video streams. Stay tuned.
John
I was invited to give a demo to the Chicago Audio Club. That date passed and I am still working on my new motors. As far as I know the offer is still open. I learned not to pre-announce a date until I was ready!
I was interested in the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest. I have attended it in the past. Now people are recommending the AXPONA as having better attendance and being cheaper. I have been invited by Mr. Soo to give a talk and demo at next year's California Audio Show.
I have had audiophiles over to listen and they either don't want to have their opinions aired publicly, I assume because they are afraid of being attacked by people for their opinion, or those audiophiles that have agreeded to have their opinions posted are ridiculed in forums like this. I have had one writer from a small online audio publication listen. He literally left, looking like a zombie. I never heard back from him again; no article. I have pointed out that there is a You Tube video of a personally built prototype by a highly regarded particle physicist, but that's not good enough to prove basic functionality?
Larry who worked for DEQX came out, on his own dime, for three days from Denver and did measurements. He left me the measurements. I have the raw data from REW and screen shots of those results displayed in the program. At the time I had a poorly functioning P4 and P3. P3 was not yet properly adjusted and its performance did suffer. Using the DEQX we were able to get the frequency response very flat. Later, after Larry left, I used the REW software he was using, (Larry taught me how to use the software) and the microphone and USB microphone preamp and a Radio Shack audio meter that Larry recommended. I fine tuned the magnetic homing and dampening device on P4 and produced the graph I published on my Web site.
I will do the live audio stream with Frank Van Alstine I will have to wait for my new prototypes to be finished. I will have to fit this into our schedules as well as two audiophiles' schedules, that I will invite to my home. I will be doing some short test video streams, using P3, that I will be airing weeks prior to main video stream event.
As I said before I will proceed at my own pace and no one else's. I make no apologies.
Bye. I will not respond to any more questions here, for now.
If you have questions send them to:
info@planotspeaker.com
I will get back with an announcement of the live video streams. Stay tuned.
John
Hi,
Perhaps he was at at a loss as to how you can be so deluded.
A small publication needs positive articles about good stuff.
rgds, sreten.
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Hi,
Said U tube video only confirms its very poor :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_6RoXETRx0
As was the summation of said physicist, it doesn't work.
rgds, sreten.
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Yeah it seems like there is no way for this to make any sound. The most you would get from it would be noise just like the youtube video showed.
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