Infinity is mathematical expression of unlimited value.
zero x infinity = undefined.
(approaching zero number) x (approaching infinity number) = number.
Thank you Wavebourn for being precise (i.e. approaching reality 😀 ).
Infinities only exist in mathematicians' fantasies 🙂
Zero as well ("How can nothing be something?")
Edit: Politicians wouldn't agree
George
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Actual infinity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaInfinity is mathematical expression of unlimited value.
I was trying to keep things simple, by avoiding limits. Never easy to tell what level to pitch things, given the wide range of people on here. I was also trying to show that zero and infinity are in a sense duals of each other. For some reason people regard zero as less mysterious.
Today 1/0 = "ERROR" 😀
Computers don't have infinite capacity.
The problem is, computer "knows" zero value. Otherwise there would be no errors. 🙂
Computers don't have infinite capacity.
The problem is, computer "knows" zero value. Otherwise there would be no errors. 🙂
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Excellent read. Thank you.
I keep the following (for the “bottle half full” followers) :
Infinity turns out to be the opposite of what people say it is. It is not 'that which has nothing beyond itself' that is infinite, but 'that which always has something beyond itself'. (Aristotle [1])
I was trying to keep things simple, by avoiding limits. Never easy to tell what level to pitch things, given the wide range of people on here. I was also trying to show that zero and infinity are in a sense duals of each other. For some reason people regard zero as less mysterious.
I am sorry DF96 . I didn’t want to make you feel uncomfortable. I took your writing in a literal way. 🙂
Today 1/0 = "ERROR" 😀
Same as yesterday

George
Well I thought the same,
Photon..rest mass = 0
0 x ? = number.
Zero mass not effected by higgs field x ? = number..??
So I assumed that it must be the energy that gives mass I could be wrong😀
If this was not the case then how does the speed effect "mass" and create the Max speed of the universe? "C"
Regards
M. Gregg
Photon..rest mass = 0
0 x ? = number.
Zero mass not effected by higgs field x ? = number..??
So I assumed that it must be the energy that gives mass I could be wrong😀
If this was not the case then how does the speed effect "mass" and create the Max speed of the universe? "C"
Regards
M. Gregg
Is zero anything other than an abstract concept invented by us humans? Does nothing really exist outside of mathematics?
Here's a nice one that always gets things going btw:
0.9999.... (repeated to infinity) = 1 😀
Here's a nice one that always gets things going btw:
0.9999.... (repeated to infinity) = 1 😀
Just a thought,
Does a particle without mass exist..what I'm thinking, is this the idea of something appearing out of nothing..Is this a particle that gets energy so acquires mass? If the energy is lost does it cease to exist? Perhaps disappear might be a better term ?
Or am I on the wrong track?
Regards
M. Gregg
Does a particle without mass exist..what I'm thinking, is this the idea of something appearing out of nothing..Is this a particle that gets energy so acquires mass? If the energy is lost does it cease to exist? Perhaps disappear might be a better term ?
Or am I on the wrong track?
Regards
M. Gregg
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Well I thought the same,
Photon..rest mass = 0
0 x ? = number.
Zero mass not effected by higgs field x ? = number..??
So I assumed that it must be the energy that gives mass I could be wrong😀
If this was not the case then how does the speed effect "mass" and create the Max speed of the universe? "C"
Regards
M. Gregg
I think this at rest thing is a problem .
Did anyone say about the more interesting problem of 1 to the power infinity is indeterminant ? My brain says it must be 1 . Anything to power zero is 1 , I love that . Infinity to power zero ?
I think what people forget is " tends to infinity " is always said . As I say infinity hasn't happened yet . I doubt it has ?
Well,
Stupid comments again..meaningless but I think interesting.
Infinity ....Energy..
Life energy ....infinity
Life force...0 mass
Life force + energy = mass (exists)
Going even more stupid..
Life force (I) without body = 0 mass + love/hate emotion (energy from another person) = mass... (enter twilight zone music)
Good for a laugh isn't it..😀
Back to photons..with zero mass in another dimension oups..😀
Regards
M. Gregg
Stupid comments again..meaningless but I think interesting.
Infinity ....Energy..
Life energy ....infinity
Life force...0 mass
Life force + energy = mass (exists)
Going even more stupid..
Life force (I) without body = 0 mass + love/hate emotion (energy from another person) = mass... (enter twilight zone music)
Good for a laugh isn't it..😀
Back to photons..with zero mass in another dimension oups..😀
Regards
M. Gregg
Is zero anything other than an abstract concept invented by us humans?
That's true of all numerals.
That's true of all numerals.
Time is said by some to be man made . I doubt that . Perhaps it is the first dimension and it can exist without any others ?
The man made bit is we die so we record history . Day and night plus winter gave us a clock . That was perhaps how brains developed , to live outside of our real comfort zone ( the zones of constant summers ) . It needs thought to prosper and clothes . It also required people with real drive . The reward to be free as they migrated .
Writing reduced the respect for old people . Old and wise was now a book .
Good science has to be observed . That's my problem with written things . We trust the opinions of others too much . Sometimes we need to try for ourselves . My friend John severely criticized me for wasting time on experiments that simulation would prove wrong . If he said I bore him I would have accepted that as I do go on about obviously wrong concepts . I said my greatest joy is being wrong and learning . Simulation to me is a like reading about art . I had no idea about Constable until I saw his work ( The Lock gates , please can I have that to keep ) . Velasquez even more so ( the little Princess ) . Picasso , say nothing until you see ( positive ) .
John was saying he now would not waste time designing loudspeaker cabinets now . I asked did he know that the ancient Lockwood designs are so wrong as to be not worth trying ? He gulped as he knows the Lockwood's to be excellent . The problem is the design tools do not understand them he says . They are back in production again . I took a pair of Lockwood cabinets to Austria . They seemed like firewood . I had no idea about them . The man insisted I listen to a pair . No way could it be true how good they were . Spendor also had similar ideas !
Lockwood Audio
Bumble bees can not fly .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumblebee
Einstein I think was scared that we might loose the bee and it would cause untold trouble . It happened here as the Armageddon that was the period 1914/18 ( flu and loss of our native honey bee + war , our bees I think are Italian ? ) . This year in England has been very bad for bees .
If we all became bee keepers we would do much good . With the brains here we should be very alert to how to preserve our planet . Global warming is almost certainly out of our control if it exists ? Bees are far from that . Bees evolved from wasps I think I read ? Flowers arrived as bees evolved .
Bee in my bonnet ? You bet .
Leo Buscaglia said " The person who risks nothing , does nothing , has nothing , and becomes nothing .
I suspect this is actually the doctrine of the Jesuits as I have heard it in French said in a more simple way ( Pour quelqu'un qui ne risque rien, il n'y a rien ) .
I also heard it said that "the amateur works until one day they succeed , the professional works on until they can not fail " . Attributed to Brain Tracey I suspect ( less good version )?
What people forget is the amateur it the person that loves in it's meaning . The first statement was I think about amateurs in the strictest sense . I have always been a risk taker .
My spell checker came up with armatures . That's me also .
I suspect this is actually the doctrine of the Jesuits as I have heard it in French said in a more simple way ( Pour quelqu'un qui ne risque rien, il n'y a rien ) .
I also heard it said that "the amateur works until one day they succeed , the professional works on until they can not fail " . Attributed to Brain Tracey I suspect ( less good version )?
What people forget is the amateur it the person that loves in it's meaning . The first statement was I think about amateurs in the strictest sense . I have always been a risk taker .
My spell checker came up with armatures . That's me also .
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