You must have inefficient speakers
It gets plenty loud when I use other preamps. The problem is that I am using a 6 channel preamp so there are other, more powerful, amps in the mix when I use multiple channels. I just need to make a good stereo pre dedicated to the F6..
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Ok. It all makes sense now.It gets plenty loud when I use other preamps. The problem is that I am using a 6 channel preamp so there are other, more powerful, amps in the mix when I use multiple channels. I just need to make a good stereo pre dedicated to the F6..
Let me think about that.
BA3 makes a great preamp though.
I'd be tempted to start from scratch. Design everything for best integration.
Ya that's what I'm thinking.
If R1 and R2 are there for stability (and for setting bias) what benefits would there be to removing or lowering them other than wasting a little less power?
If R1 and R2 are there for stability (and for setting bias) what benefits would there be to removing or lowering them other than wasting a little less power?
Sliding bias effect
Nelson says it better than I do. Here's a paragraph from the F6 DIY article from 6moons (R13 & R14 = R1 & R2 on the Mosfet schematic). Just wondering if there's a value with the Mosfets under which it isn't recommended to go. 😱
If you are interested in adjusting the harmonic structure in this amplifier, there is a nice easy place where you can do it. I have added low-value power resistors (R13 and R14) in series with the Source pins of the output transistors. Typical values for these would be 0.025Ω to 0.1Ω. If you leave R13 at 0Ω and put 0.05Ω for R14, you will find yourself with a positive-phase second harmonic. By this I mean there will be expansion as the wave goes positive and compression as the wave goes negative. If you have a negative-phase second harmonic, you could use this approach to null it out. If you leave R14 at 0Ω but set R13 at a small value, you do the opposite either creating a negative-phase second harmonic or nulling an existing positive-phase second harmonic.
. Just wondering if there's a value with the Mosfets under which it isn't recommended to go. 😱
Yeah. There certainly is. Going where no man fears tread is what a FAB is about.
When he wrote that article he was referring to semisouth devices with much friendly temperature coefficients.
I built an F5 with no current limiting circuit or thermistor to control bias and the bias certainly does want to creap up in value. Setting the bias was a slow process. That was using 0.47 ohm source resistors on irfp240/9240
I'd take a guess and say 0.3 ohms might be achievable with irfp240/9240, but wouldn't bet my house on it till I had actually tried it.
So would setting those resistors too low result in thermal runaway or something more catastrophic? Basically would some thermal sensors which trip a relay controlling power prevent catastrophic failure if one wanted to experiment with different values?
Forget over engineering and controlling everything.So would setting those resistors too low result in thermal runaway or something more catastrophic? Basically would some thermal sensors which trip a relay controlling power prevent catastrophic failure if one wanted to experiment with different values?
Just experiment to find what's safe.
Nelson might provide some further advice but there's nothing stopping anyone doing their own tests. That's what its about. It doesn't take long to swap in and out different source resistors.
I already have the thermal sensors installed I just don't want to burn my house down..
Normally On thermal sensors mounted on the heat sink are probably ok.
You'll burn out the mosfets way before anything catches on fire unless you used ridiculously thin gauged wiring intended for small currents.
That's why I stated you may have a couple of issues on the other board, but not on the one Russell showed in his photos.
I had no issues on that board either, dont know how much bigger one would want to go with cap, the Panasonic version I used on BA-3 boards are much smaller, even at 103 degree version.
Russellc
It gets plenty loud when I use other preamps. The problem is that I am using a 6 channel preamp so there are other, more powerful, amps in the mix when I use multiple channels. I just need to make a good stereo pre dedicated to the F6..
BA-3 FE as Preamp.
Russellc
Ok. It all makes sense now.
Let me think about that.
BA3 makes a great preamp though.
Yup. Tons of gain. Works great with F-5 too, about the same gain as F-6.
Russellc
I know this has been covered, but I can't find the info I'm after.
I know NP posted a thread about this, just can't find it at present.
Transistor insulators.
I know mica is much preferred, But I'm having trouble finding any in the to-247/to-3p size.
Mica ~ 0.7wm/k
I can however get these
Aluminium oxide 15.06 W/mK @ 75° (solid pad)
Thermalsil III 0.92 w/m °C (silpad)
Thermalfilm™MT 0.379Wm/K (kapton)
Would that not mean the aluminum oxide is far superior ?
Second choice, thermasil or thermafilm ? noting there rated as celcius or kelvin, does that make a difference overall ??
Thanks..
I know NP posted a thread about this, just can't find it at present.
Transistor insulators.
I know mica is much preferred, But I'm having trouble finding any in the to-247/to-3p size.
Mica ~ 0.7wm/k
I can however get these
Aluminium oxide 15.06 W/mK @ 75° (solid pad)
Thermalsil III 0.92 w/m °C (silpad)
Thermalfilm™MT 0.379Wm/K (kapton)
Would that not mean the aluminum oxide is far superior ?
Second choice, thermasil or thermafilm ? noting there rated as celcius or kelvin, does that make a difference overall ??
Thanks..
Transistor insulators.
Aluminium oxide is very brittle. The best compromise is the Keratherm type.
It's also important to use the right level of mounting torque, if you use a screw. A clamp is better.
10 Keratherm® Red Insulators - Parts
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Hey Russellc thanks for the advice. Have you tried the JFET BOZ? Do you think it might be good or should I go straight for the BA-3?
BA-3 pre most def.
I know this has been covered, but I can't find the info I'm after.
I know NP posted a thread about this, just can't find it at present.
Transistor insulators.
I know mica is much preferred, But I'm having trouble finding any in the to-247/to-3p size.
Mica ~ 0.7wm/k
I can however get these
Aluminium oxide 15.06 W/mK @ 75° (solid pad)
Thermalsil III 0.92 w/m °C (silpad)
Thermalfilm™MT 0.379Wm/K (kapton)
Would that not mean the aluminum oxide is far superior ?
Second choice, thermasil or thermafilm ? noting there rated as celcius or kelvin, does that make a difference overall ??
Thanks..
If you don't need many just get keratherm pads from diyaudio store.
Yup. After having a look, those red keratherms are 6.5w/mK
Pretty impressive. So thats what I'll get.
Thanks all.
Pretty impressive. So thats what I'll get.
Thanks all.
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