A great film, but Lanzmann is a little heavy-handed in places and treats many of the witnesses poorly, particularly the so-called "bystanders". It's easy now to criticize the Polish people for having done nothing, but Lanzmann should have known better, since millions of non-Jewish Poles were sent to labor camps, were persecuted, or were murdered as well.
John
Yes, you can clearly see he's pissed off. Probably biased. 🙂 You can also really see that the Polish workers who lived near the camps were very rudimentary persons. Not their fault if Nature made them that way (half-witted).
Jlsem -- reminds me of the joke "How do you tune a banjo?"
ans: "Throw it in the garbage, and when it hits the acordian, it's tuned."
ans: "Throw it in the garbage, and when it hits the acordian, it's tuned."
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With Lanzmann it's hard to say whether he's so dialed-in to the Holocaust because he is Jewish (I understand he is really a secularist) or because his own philosophy compels him to demonstrate what rotten people people are.
John
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Speaking of great films, does anyone know where this house is? It was used as a set in The Godfather Part II and I assume it's somewhere in Sicily:
John
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
John
Messina province, North-East side of the island.
Main location was the city of Taormina, some footage 5 miles up north to the village Savoca, plus some shots 5 miles south of Taormina in Fiumefreddo.
Here's a good map : http://patandlewtravel.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/sicily-map.jpg
(me got stranded several weeks on the isle in '80, don't ask)
Main location was the city of Taormina, some footage 5 miles up north to the village Savoca, plus some shots 5 miles south of Taormina in Fiumefreddo.
Here's a good map : http://patandlewtravel.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/sicily-map.jpg
(me got stranded several weeks on the isle in '80, don't ask)
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He joined the French resistance and fought against the Nazis. It's a question of character not beliefs. He's an atheist. Hearing some of the testimonies got my blood boiling too and i wasn't there....
Malediction, you changed your avatar!
Were there many Nazis in Auvergne during the war? I would think he spent most of his time in the resistance making trouble for the Vichy government.
I agree you with regard to the film itself. Though I haven't seen it since it was released, I'm still angry and will confess that it had a profound effect on me and the way I think about that stuff.
John
I agree you with regard to the film itself. Though I haven't seen it since it was released, I'm still angry and will confess that it had a profound effect on me and the way I think about that stuff.
John
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LOL. I've no idea. He's an intellectual so I guess he mostly did paperwork. A bit like Beckett, but I'm only guessing.
Previously I had seen Hollywood interpretation and read something about it but that was all. When I saw Shoah I was profoundly shocked. I spent three months researching about the holocaust. I had to know all the facts.
Au nom de tous les miens / For Those I Loved / Der Schrei nach Leben
A biographical TV mini series about holocaust survivor Martin Gray. I was 10 or so when watching it the first time. A very impressive, unbelievable sad but also encouraging series.
A biographical TV mini series about holocaust survivor Martin Gray. I was 10 or so when watching it the first time. A very impressive, unbelievable sad but also encouraging series.
Six that haven't been mentioned yet:
Field of Dreams
Johnny Got His Gun
Kelly's Heroes
Paths of Glory
Slaughterhouse Five
The Enemy Below
Field of Dreams
Johnny Got His Gun
Kelly's Heroes
Paths of Glory
Slaughterhouse Five
The Enemy Below
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H2O. Maybe not the best film.
But it illustrates how democracy can work.
Maybe if I believe in something, I think this could work even better.
But it illustrates how democracy can work.
Maybe if I believe in something, I think this could work even better.
Hey hey. Good to see this thread again. In the meantime Sidney Lumet has died. 12 Angry Men and Network recommended.
I read up till page 22 and nobody mentioned what was at one time regarded as a classic; High Noon. Aver wooden actor, Gary Cooper, but the development of the story and the timing was brilliant. Bullit had similar development of the story and I really enjoyed it.
Most movies that Stanley Kubrick was involved in were well worth watching.
I think Das Boot was brilliant. I tend to enjoy most of the French movies shown on S.B.S here and at one time there were some brilliant Yugoslav movies shown on New Zealand television. I prefer sub-titles to dubbing.
There was a Japanese movie about a boy/man who thought he was a train. I think it may have been black and white but it was great. Can,t remember the title.
jamikl
Most movies that Stanley Kubrick was involved in were well worth watching.
I think Das Boot was brilliant. I tend to enjoy most of the French movies shown on S.B.S here and at one time there were some brilliant Yugoslav movies shown on New Zealand television. I prefer sub-titles to dubbing.
There was a Japanese movie about a boy/man who thought he was a train. I think it may have been black and white but it was great. Can,t remember the title.
jamikl
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