Looking for best midrange driver for 3-way diy project
it must be detailed and transparent
now i own Troelы Gravesen Cyclop
and around other speakers that i listend it has the best midrange
but 🙂 it was my 10th diy project so i plan my own 3.5way
the idea for new project
2 x h1411 seas in two different TL
the midrange in spherical cab or like midrange cab in B&W diamond.
and the twitter is HIQUPHON OWII in cab like B&W diamond too.
but i cant decide which midrange to use
the m15ch002 like in mine current setup or something else
maybe the ATC sm75-150?
or even accuton C90-6-078
any suggestions are welcomed
it must be detailed and transparent
now i own Troelы Gravesen Cyclop
and around other speakers that i listend it has the best midrange
but 🙂 it was my 10th diy project so i plan my own 3.5way
the idea for new project
2 x h1411 seas in two different TL
the midrange in spherical cab or like midrange cab in B&W diamond.
and the twitter is HIQUPHON OWII in cab like B&W diamond too.
but i cant decide which midrange to use
the m15ch002 like in mine current setup or something else
maybe the ATC sm75-150?
or even accuton C90-6-078
any suggestions are welcomed
OK, first suggestion is to start with the midrange and build your system around it. It is the most important part so make the other parts conform to it rather than the other way around.
I have good experience with the Visaton TI100 bright detailed sound.
Zaph|Audio
Visaton has a even better one the AL130 but that one is already to big for midrange IMO. For best sound do not bigger then a 4".
Usher seems to have very good bas mid drivers 6" from specs I never did hear them. And again quit big cone.
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Zaph|Audio
Visaton has a even better one the AL130 but that one is already to big for midrange IMO. For best sound do not bigger then a 4".
Usher seems to have very good bas mid drivers 6" from specs I never did hear them. And again quit big cone.
I'm using the Scanspeak 12MU8731 and couldn't be happier.
http://www.scan-speak.dk/datasheet/pdf/12mu-8731t00.pdf
Also check out the Audiotechnology 15h5206sdKM
http://www.audiotechnology.dk/iz.asp?id=4|a|935|||
http://www.scan-speak.dk/datasheet/pdf/12mu-8731t00.pdf
Also check out the Audiotechnology 15h5206sdKM
http://www.audiotechnology.dk/iz.asp?id=4|a|935|||
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Hey cka3o4nuk!
I started out the same way, after reading this forum I concluded that Jordan JXR6 would be a very hi-end mid driver. You can only imagine how appalled I was to see that it was good enough for computer speakers at best... A couple years passed, I now have the accutons and the ATC and not sure what else there is to try. I mean, not to just try, but to be like, WORLDS BETTER!!!!
This perception of what sounds good and what doesn't seems also to vary from person to person.
So I afraid we all on our own in this quest for better sound.
I like the sound of plastic drivers, so maybe some kevlar scanspeaks? Some people speak highly of Audax aerogels. There's also a more expensive accuton c178, one person said that it's the best mid he ever heard.
Then there's PHL and AT drivers that I haven't heard yet.. Then there's magnepans and electrostats... Horns and altecs...
A esli potom budesh kak-to v kieve, mozhesh zaiti poslushat' akkuton i atc...
😎
I started out the same way, after reading this forum I concluded that Jordan JXR6 would be a very hi-end mid driver. You can only imagine how appalled I was to see that it was good enough for computer speakers at best... A couple years passed, I now have the accutons and the ATC and not sure what else there is to try. I mean, not to just try, but to be like, WORLDS BETTER!!!!
This perception of what sounds good and what doesn't seems also to vary from person to person.
So I afraid we all on our own in this quest for better sound.
I like the sound of plastic drivers, so maybe some kevlar scanspeaks? Some people speak highly of Audax aerogels. There's also a more expensive accuton c178, one person said that it's the best mid he ever heard.
Then there's PHL and AT drivers that I haven't heard yet.. Then there's magnepans and electrostats... Horns and altecs...
A esli potom budesh kak-to v kieve, mozhesh zaiti poslushat' akkuton i atc...
😎
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What sort of room? What passband preferred? What sensitivity?
If these are not specified then I think you need to start with the overall system concept rather than a midrange driver (which may not even exist in any one of several optimal designs).
If these are not specified then I think you need to start with the overall system concept rather than a midrange driver (which may not even exist in any one of several optimal designs).
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Altec 414 from Great Plains Audio is the best sounding midrange I have ever had in my system. I'm running it from 100 hz to 850 hz.
Here's a godly 3 way; if it was ever built :
1. Tweeter : Scanspeak D3004 Beryllium soft dome tweeter
2. Midrange: Accuton C-173
3. Audio Technology 15'' sandwich cone
Total price of drivers only = $5500
electron luv | hi-fi vacuum tube atomic age audio, amplifiers, guitar amps, speakers, horns, Salt Lake City, UT
..in a very large modified Iwata Horn.
..at a reasonable price and a much lower efficiency:
http://meniscusaudio.com/bg-neo10-p-1169.html
http://www.zaphaudio.com/blog.html
(..scroll down to see it.)
..in a very large modified Iwata Horn.
..at a reasonable price and a much lower efficiency:
http://meniscusaudio.com/bg-neo10-p-1169.html
http://www.zaphaudio.com/blog.html
(..scroll down to see it.)
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Wow that looks nice!
Hey ScottG, any personal experience with that Neo10 thing?
Does it sound worlds better than accuton/atc/altec/whatev?
Hey ScottG, any personal experience with that Neo10 thing?
Does it sound worlds better than accuton/atc/altec/whatev?
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Only the Neo 8, not the 10.
It *can* sound better than accuton/atc/at/etc..
This depends on the design/implementation and the partnering equipment, and particularly the amplifier and crossover.
There are 2 others on this thread using the 10:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/175745-three-way-nude-swinging-dipole-thread.html
PHL1120, 300Hz to 2500Hz, a really good midrange, high sensitivity, less bass of audiotechnology (of course it doesn't do thaht...), less precise than Accuton but really more dynamic and expressive, a music maker!
Thanks for the pointer, I been reading on dipoles, that's an interesting concept, haven't seen that one though!
I've measured and listened to a dozen other drivers over the last year in consideration for my project. From 3" - 8", paper, metal, nomex, carbon fiber, bamboo. I like the Neo10s best of all for my tastes and my application.
Greg
How exactly is a beryllium diaphragm a soft dome?
From what I recall, Accuton and AT drivers measure fairly well, but they aren't the best.