http://www.amazon.co.uk/GPO-3-Speed-Turntable-Built-In-Speakers/dp/B00OD2I5L2
Again this. How many people would give the Ortofon Arm a second look were it not for it's reputation.
Both this and the previous almost look to have the basic bits covered. The Sharp might not be detachable headshell. The Lenco arm as bad as it looks is solid. Loricaft have a SME series One. I must liberate it one day. The One is a very different animal and very solid.
Again this. How many people would give the Ortofon Arm a second look were it not for it's reputation.
Both this and the previous almost look to have the basic bits covered. The Sharp might not be detachable headshell. The Lenco arm as bad as it looks is solid. Loricaft have a SME series One. I must liberate it one day. The One is a very different animal and very solid.
both those you link don't look to really be a stepup from the stock arm. http://img.beatles.ru/fleamarket/117/117093.jpg
Who knows maybe the Q33 is a sleeper. Certainly big and heavy. Possibly heavier than the Trio.
Who knows maybe the Q33 is a sleeper. Certainly big and heavy. Possibly heavier than the Trio.
I have Technics SL-Q3. Which I think is almost same. Platter is sufficiently heavy. Strobe looks stable. I am playing it with after market stylus. It is nice and quiet. So I am sure with proper cartridge it will sound even better.both those you link don't look to really be a stepup from the stock arm. http://img.beatles.ru/fleamarket/117/117093.jpg
Who knows maybe the Q33 is a sleeper. Certainly big and heavy. Possibly heavier than the Trio.
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Arm looks like well built if not precision made. Movement is smooth. Sound compared to my earlier Pioneer belt drive is detailed. But that would be two totally different turntables and subjective difference. Love the auto function. 🙂
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The automute perturbs me somewhat. But I have been spoiled over the last 20 years with my SME 345 (309 arm tube, IV bearings and V silver wiring: go figure). It is everything a tonearm should be. Sadly also painfully expensive. But a tonearm for life.
If I wear my graphic designer hat and if we leave aside high fidelity for a moment (as it may be be individual preference) SMEs 30xx are beautiful designs. Black, satin and chrome finish. Almost iconic.

I agree. I love the look of the 3009 which is why my heart says I should get at least one. But my head says there might be better options. never had an RB300 (had the 250 before the SME).
Thing is you can get a second hand 309 for the cost of an M2-9R. I should note that my initial intent is to run MM carts. I have the 'perceived wisdom' setup with an expensive MC in a low torque belt drive. Time to see if a high torque direct drive with MM can compete if given a level playing field and correct interfacing.
I think I had a small hand in the new ones. I was so upset when the old 12 inch went. Cameron told us he only kept SME going to please his dad. Now that MOD work has dried up they are happy to sell the pickup arms. When I saw the M series I thought they looked like the cheaper Sansui arms. This was soon put to one side on hearing them. From my heart the M2 10 inch is the best arm SME make of all the designs. I am not the greatest fan of the Series 5. The 12 in great. It is just the 10 is possible on most turntables.
The eBay things I put forward were to say sometimes some of these are really good. The Chinese design looks to be plastic. What a shame as some care went into making it look real. Acos/Rega Luster were good designs. Acos sold Rega in the old days.
The eBay things I put forward were to say sometimes some of these are really good. The Chinese design looks to be plastic. What a shame as some care went into making it look real. Acos/Rega Luster were good designs. Acos sold Rega in the old days.
Hmm, Ah well maybe I'll find out that the stock arm was better than I thought or another 3009 Siii will come up for under £150.
Well I have my SL-Q33 now. Well worth £11. Will take some pics tomorrow and then can start working out what to do with it.
I will try, but I am a poor reviewer and first have to work out what I will be doing with it! I now have 2 DD turntables, this and the Trio/kenwood KD-550 so will be amused for sometime!
No pics yet but took a quick look at it when I got back last night. Arm base is a nice casting but the arm itself is not amazing and a lot of plastic where I don't like to see it on an arm.
Platter needs a lot of damping. It rings a lot in place. the mounting of the magnet to the platter is interesting and does mean a different platter could literally be screwed in if I can call in favours from a friend with a lathe...
Next step is to get the bearing out.
Platter needs a lot of damping. It rings a lot in place. the mounting of the magnet to the platter is interesting and does mean a different platter could literally be screwed in if I can call in favours from a friend with a lathe...
Next step is to get the bearing out.
Yes platter rings. I wonder why a vinyl-Rubber-Platter would not make a composite layer damping. But platter is little heavy compared to other cheap direct drive turntable. Bearing I think is not very impressive either but should be ok. The spindle shaft is rounded off (like garrad) and is rested on thin small thrust pad. Probably nylon.
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I may be totally wrong here, but it looks like the Q33 uses the same motor and bearing as the SL-1200. If this is the case then things just got interesting. I'll need to unscrew some more to really find out and maybe send the bearing to Dave Cawley to confirm.
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