From all that I have read or seen I believe this to be a summed X-over point as shown >
Yeah, that's where it ended up after I got done messing with it. It's probably better up as high as it can go anyway, less work for your tweeter 🙂
I'm still gonna try your X-over, the tweeter will be mounted about a 1/4 inch from the woofer which gives me a 4.25 inch C-T-C spacing ! I would probably bet not all designs follow the spacing rule to the letter anyway. Your response graph looks to good to not give it a shot, and the X-over parts count is low. I have some 0.6mh coils, once I can get my hands on some 0.06mh coils and wire them in series she will be a go ! Thank-you for all your work, I,ll let you know my progress when all the parts arrive and I get them built.
I think I got it now ! So would it be safe to say a C-T-C spacing based on the above graph could be about 8 inches or less ? If so DrDyna please forgive my ignorance !
I think I got it now ! So would it be safe to say a C-T-C spacing based on the above graph could be about 8 inches or less ? If so DrDyna please forgive my ignorance !
This is still some of the stuff I'm learning myself. If it's 1/4 wavelength at that crossover point, that would make it a little more than half an inch I think, which would be very difficult.
I'd probably settle for "as close as possible."
You could always give this a look but beware, your brain might hurt. Mine did after about 5 minutes.
Ouch ! "I knew I should have learned Greek" From what I don't understand C-T-C spacing has something to do with baffle step correction ect....
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This is still some of the stuff I'm learning myself. If it's 1/4 wavelength at that crossover point, that would make it a little more than half an inch I think, which would be very difficult.
I'd probably settle for "as close as possible."
You could always give this a look but beware, your brain might hurt. Mine did after about 5 minutes.
It was that article that really lit some things up for me re MTMs.
Most cone/dome speakers are compromised wrt driver spacing and my calculation was intended to exemplify that. The less than optimal CTC are what cause lobing, and to a lesser extent the flare in the dispersion at the bottom of the tweeter passband.
dave
Ouch ! "I knew I should have learned Greek" From what I don't understand C-T-C spacing has something to do with baffle step correction ect....
Nothing to do with baffle step.
dave
Like I said its all Greek to me ! I tend to read alot and absorb little ! Thanks for clearing things up !
I found this looks like a good tool, and some interesting reading as well ! Link > Driver Offset Calculator
As long as your xover is below the CTC corresponding wavelength, you are okay.
I understand that P10 is saying you avoid the lobing issues entirely when using a 1/4 lambda CTC, but we just can't accomplish that most of the time.
13560/CTC = highest xover frequency recommended.
Some optimization criteria... and some tips... - Techtalk Speaker Building, Audio, Video, and Electronics Customer Discussion Forum From Parts-Express.com
Later,
Wolf
I understand that P10 is saying you avoid the lobing issues entirely when using a 1/4 lambda CTC, but we just can't accomplish that most of the time.
13560/CTC = highest xover frequency recommended.
Some optimization criteria... and some tips... - Techtalk Speaker Building, Audio, Video, and Electronics Customer Discussion Forum From Parts-Express.com
Later,
Wolf
I understand that P10 is saying you avoid the lobing issues entirely when using a 1/4 lambda CTC, but we just can't accomplish that most of the time.
It can be done. My latest MTM satisfies that criteria...
dave
It can be done. My latest MTM satisfies that criteria...
dave
Link? Must be REALLY tiny spacing, or is it a FR with 2 woofers?
Later,
Wolf
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/css/176790-el166-mtm-ml-tl.html
3+ octaves from the woofers, 6+ from the mid-tweeter.
dave
3+ octaves from the woofers, 6+ from the mid-tweeter.
dave
That's what I thought. I was referencing for a typical midbass-tweeter arrangement- it's not possible for most of those type of applications.
Later,
Wolf
Later,
Wolf
I found it !
Trying to explain the C-T-C spacing thing, here is the chart I had been talking about ! Link > Techtalk Speaker Building, Audio, Video, and Electronics Customer Discussion Forum From Parts-Express.com - View Single Post - 2 way or 2.5 way MMTMM?
Trying to explain the C-T-C spacing thing, here is the chart I had been talking about ! Link > Techtalk Speaker Building, Audio, Video, and Electronics Customer Discussion Forum From Parts-Express.com - View Single Post - 2 way or 2.5 way MMTMM?
Tang Band W4-1720/Series X-over
Once again I managed to get off topic. Could someone respond to this thread before it gets lost in the archives ? What I would like to do is construct a 2-way using the TB 1720 with a SB Acoustics tweeter, here is the data > http://www.solen.ca/pdf/sb/sb25stncc0004.pdf Any help would greatly appreciated ! Thank-you
Once again I managed to get off topic. Could someone respond to this thread before it gets lost in the archives ? What I would like to do is construct a 2-way using the TB 1720 with a SB Acoustics tweeter, here is the data > http://www.solen.ca/pdf/sb/sb25stncc0004.pdf Any help would greatly appreciated ! Thank-you
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