I missed all the fun. Seems to me neither the linear gain change nor the mixer change with "appropriate" level outputs is a brick wall limiter.
Which point to the fact you didn't made the effort to read the thread ( it's become repetitive) .
Of course an external pad is different that deliberately bridle the capacity of an ouput stage to make it unable to be patched to gear it is made to work with initially...
Of course the advice come from someone which had not paid for it and won't had to deal with the impossibility to resale it.
And don't start me on the fact it is 'easily' brought back to original state by desoldering what had been implemented: it seems you never had to deal with the 200 knobs, nuts, washers you have to take away (and not loose) to have access to the two resistors you plan to change for your modification.
And of course it presumes Robodna already have an hot air station and resistors are not 805 type tightly packed.
Indeed looking at all this from behind your computer screen must be comical. 🙄
Ahem, I used to repair and modify such stuff in the past, also Urei rotary mixers for a certain DJ. Not familiar with this Soundcraft but familiar with dealing with one offs. In fact I most like doing one offs. I never think of resale value when doing custom work, it is about solutions/result.
No I am not reading the entire thread as there are more sidesteps than I can count.
No I am not reading the entire thread as there are more sidesteps than I can count.
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Lol.
Too bad you would not make the effort, you could learn some things along.
At this point i think you are just listening to yourself speaking and it's all an ego related stuff. Such a shame it imply sending someone on a very bad track.
Given you already dismissed experience from other members in a field you obviously don't know about, repeat things ad lib without doing the effort to try to understand other perspective than yours you lost all credibility to me. Too bad.
Too bad you would not make the effort, you could learn some things along.
At this point i think you are just listening to yourself speaking and it's all an ego related stuff. Such a shame it imply sending someone on a very bad track.
Given you already dismissed experience from other members in a field you obviously don't know about, repeat things ad lib without doing the effort to try to understand other perspective than yours you lost all credibility to me. Too bad.
I think you assume way too much and are becoming repeatedly a bit too personal not to say it borders on insulting. It has nothing to do anymore with the correct suggestion (be it difficult to implement or not). The person with damaged or too large ego is not me.
Please check if I did the same to you. “LOL”
Please check if I did the same to you. “LOL”
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You are kidding right?
You dismiss the 60 years of experience of Jaddie, did not care about my own 30 last years of experience, told you don't understand what we do, don't make the effort to read what have been explained and use hand waving because you know... and now you are whining i'm on the border to insult you.
Just LOL.
You dismiss the 60 years of experience of Jaddie, did not care about my own 30 last years of experience, told you don't understand what we do, don't make the effort to read what have been explained and use hand waving because you know... and now you are whining i'm on the border to insult you.
Just LOL.
^^ Nice to see my stupidity finally brought you both to agree on at least something! I had no clue on how to use my mixer when I posted, you are right 🙂 I acknowledged this in further posts and privately sent @krivium a PM to thank him for taking the time to let me know my mixer was capable of addressing SOME of the concerns mentioned in my OP. Coming into this, I knew my mixer could output more than what my F5m could take. I had my newbie hat on for sure. I used the term 'brick limiter' not fully understanding how involved the answer would become with all the bickering back-forth between you guys. I then realized I had gone down a rabbit hole and learned more about dBV, dBu, reference levels and LOTS not mentioned here. I can totally see how an expert could get frustrated with my Home Simpson level of understanding... and I'm super sorry for that eh.
I did not need a brick wall limiter after all, and obviously used the wrong terms looking back now.
Thanks again for all the help, as all this info will be critical to my setup. We can consider this thread closed now!
I did not need a brick wall limiter after all, and obviously used the wrong terms looking back now.
Thanks again for all the help, as all this info will be critical to my setup. We can consider this thread closed now!
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P.S. @jean-paul I see what you mean about post #122. Keep in mind I fully understood what you meant the first time you posted it... it's just post #122 is when I finally had time to go back through ALL THE POSTS you guys were posting and had read it for the first time at that point. ( i had not gone through all the posts until several days had passed so I could take time to understand what you guys were bickering about... it was like drinking from a fire hose, but much appreciated all the info. )
My sarcasm was lost in translation then... and as Jean-Paul edited all it's last message... anyway who cares. 🙂
That said, i don't see how not knowing something could makes someone stupid. In fact you are not as you found a possible answer by yourself, it was just overcomplicated solution to your issue.
Ok you tried pad then. You get enough ouput levels from your system? How big do you need to attenuate your master fader?
^^ Yes, I like that it's such a simple solution, and not a 'brick limiter' device.
The output level at about 2 meters away seems ok but not sure yet since I only got the PAD done yesterday and need to do more testing. When I have the master fadder at 0dB, it does not sound 'full volume' to me. I tested using a roland TR-S8 drum machine and when I turned the master fader up to 10dB, there is no distortion and it sounds like the amp may be at full volume to me. It's all subjective until I do more testing. ( I have the VU peaking at 3dB so that looks good )
The output level at about 2 meters away seems ok but not sure yet since I only got the PAD done yesterday and need to do more testing. When I have the master fadder at 0dB, it does not sound 'full volume' to me. I tested using a roland TR-S8 drum machine and when I turned the master fader up to 10dB, there is no distortion and it sounds like the amp may be at full volume to me. It's all subjective until I do more testing. ( I have the VU peaking at 3dB so that looks good )